{"conversationCode":"828-002","tapeNumber":828,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-828-002","startDateTime":"1972-12-27T13:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-27T14:20:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Dec-1972","startTime":"8:47 AM","endDate":"27-Dec-1972","endTime":"9:20 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:47 am and 9:20 am. 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Truman memorial service\n                   -Plans\n                         -Confirmation\n                                -Bull’s telephone conversation with an unknown person\n                         -Itinerary\n                                -Time on ground\n                                -Richards Gebaur Air Force Base\n                         -Bess (Wallace) Truman\n            -December 27-30, 1972\n                   -Appointments\n                         -Speeches, messages\n                         -Telephone calls\n                   -Camp David\n                   -Residence\n            -Items for the President’s signature\n                   -Alexander P. Butterfield\n                   -Frequency\n            -Staff meetings\n                   -George P. Shultz\n            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule\n                   -Camp David\n                   -Rose Bowl\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:20 am.","filename":["828-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"828-001","nextCode":"828-003","transcript":[{"start":32.5,"end":33.6,"text":"So I will be here."},{"start":65.42,"end":75.15,"text":"But I don't plan to have any."},{"start":90.51,"end":95.31,"text":"and I'm just going to take them out of the office."},{"start":95.33,"end":97.27,"text":"So we'd like to go to Camp David and shovel them off."},{"start":97.35,"end":98.19,"text":"But I can't say that I'll go."},{"start":98.21,"end":98.63,"text":"I'll go Saturday."},{"start":98.65,"end":102.08,"text":"But the point is that when I'm there, it's my teacher who's going to shovel them."},{"start":102.68,"end":103.02,"text":"But I won't."},{"start":103.04,"end":110.34,"text":"I have to be around here for other reasons, for instance, to do a few little things here."},{"start":110.36,"end":115.48,"text":"So if you're shoveling them off, I'll probably work over in the residence."},{"start":122.06,"end":128.08,"text":"Well, I don't believe Alex will have any substantial signing material, but... Oh, that's all right."},{"start":128.1,"end":128.74,"text":"I actually signed."},{"start":128.92,"end":130.56,"text":"Well, you will just narrow that down to one today?"},{"start":130.59,"end":131.13,"text":"Yeah, sure, sure, sure."},{"start":131.53,"end":134.41,"text":"What does that mean, that all and everything has to sign and that's everything?"},{"start":134.43,"end":143.06,"text":"What I meant is that people like, you know, Schultz and others, shut it all over and do it after."},{"start":145.03,"end":150.27,"text":"Well, Mrs. Mason will be going with you to Camp David on Saturday, or is that your name?"},{"start":150.29,"end":150.67,"text":"Terry."},{"start":150.97,"end":154.17,"text":"So she's going to the Rose Bowl."},{"start":155.13,"end":163.4,"text":"She won't be going with you to Camp David, I would imagine, since she's going out to California."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President's upcoming schedule, focusing on travel arrangements for the Harry S. Truman memorial service and plans for an end-of-year retreat at Camp David. The discussion covered administrative coordination, including the processing of documents for the President's signature and the scheduling of meetings with staff such as George P. Shultz. Additionally, they coordinated logistical details regarding Pat Nixon’s travel to the Rose Bowl and the status of residence staff.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Camp David","Harry S. Truman memorial service","Administrative logistics","Pat Nixon","George P. 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