{"conversationCode":"829-018","tapeNumber":829,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-829-018","startDateTime":"1973-01-02T13:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-02T13:53:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:45 AM","endDate":"2-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:53 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hays, Wayne Woodrow (\"Woody\");","description":"On January 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Wayne Woodrow (\"Woody\") Hays met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:45 am and 8:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 829-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 829-18\n\nDate: January 2, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:45 am and 8:53 am.\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President dictated a letter to Wayne Woodrow (“Woody”) Hayes.\n\n       Hayes\n            -Statement on losing\n            -Congratulations\n                  -University of Southern California [USC] game\n            -Ohio State University’s football team\n                  -Rose Bowl\n            -Congratulations\n                  -Ohio State Band\n                        -Half-time show performance","filename":["829-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hays, Wayne Woodrow (\"Woody\")"],"prevCode":"829-017","nextCode":"829-019","transcript":[{"start":9.01,"end":23.3,"text":"I have always liked your statement that, quote, show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser."},{"start":42.7,"end":55.12,"text":"uh your team has a great deal to be proud of certainly nothing to be ashamed of a tremendous battle against"},{"start":78.1,"end":79.76,"text":"football has produced in many years."},{"start":80.34,"end":81.12,"text":"Very apparent."},{"start":88.83,"end":89.57,"text":"I'll see"},{"start":105.93,"end":108.33,"text":"under your leadership will come back."},{"start":108.43,"end":119.5,"text":"To the Rose Bowl."},{"start":119.62,"end":129.56,"text":"I'm sorry, but I predict Ohio State, under your leadership, will be back at the Rose Bowl before too long."},{"start":132.29,"end":137.46,"text":"And I certainly wouldn't want to be coaching the team on the space that you want to have a kid in."},{"start":137.48,"end":147.24,"text":"Eric, end it up, would you please extend my congratulations to the leader of the band, the Ohio State band."},{"start":159.05,"end":162.09,"text":"They gave one of the finest performances I have ever seen."},{"start":163.09,"end":166.1,"text":"And I haven't had a show very, very good."},{"start":167.3,"end":169.58,"text":"Every good way for 1973, sincerely."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictated a congratulatory letter to Ohio State football coach Woody Hayes following the team's appearance in the Rose Bowl. The President lauded the competitive spirit of the team despite their loss to the University of Southern California and expressed confidence in Hayes's future leadership. Additionally, the correspondence included high praise for the Ohio State University marching band’s halftime performance.","topics":["Woody Hayes","Ohio State University","Rose Bowl","College Football","Presidential Correspondence"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:42:26.858Z"},"topicSlugs":["woody-hayes","ohio-state-university","rose-bowl","college-football","presidential-correspondence"],"audioDurationSec":177,"audioFiles":[{"file":"829-018.mp3","bytes":4263170,"durationSec":177.49,"bitrate":192150,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/829-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/829-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/829/conversation-829-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}