Conversation 829-033

TapeTape 829StartTuesday, January 2, 1973 at 11:50 AMEndTuesday, January 2, 1973 at 12:00 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office

On January 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:50 am and 12:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 829-033 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 829-33

Date: January 2, 1973
Time: Between 11:50 am and 12:00 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       Harry S. Truman’s memorial service
            -Future receptions
                  -National Security Council [NSC]
            -Foreign visitors
            -Henry A. Kissinger's recommendations
                  -Heads of state
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                                                             Conversation No. 829-33 (cont’d)

                         -Courtesy calls
                         -Scheduling
                   -Other foreign officials
                         -Carlos P. Romulo
                         -Defense Minister of Turkey
                         -Lord Chancellor of England
             -Diplomatic reception
                   -State Department
             -Attendance by Truman family
                   -Blair House
                   -Clifton V. Daniel
             -Attendance by Lyndon B. Johnson
                   -Meeting with the President
             -Courtesy calls
                   -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                   -J. Bennett Johnson, Jr.
                         -Allen J. Ellender
                         -Johnson family
                         -Photographs
                         -Aid to Nixon administration
                   -David M. Abshire
                         -Assistant Secretary of State
                   -Timing

       Meeting with William E. Timmons
            -Meeting with bipartisan congressional leaders

Bull left at 12:00 pm.

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I feel it might be two, perhaps two or three more.
I'll tell you, they recommend it.
Kissinger recommended the meeting to the three men of state.
I will be able to give you a lot of that.
But they're going to basically have to be courtesy
I actually schedule them.
Schedule them on a half-hour basis.
Do you understand?
Yes, sir.
Right after this, sir, starting at 3, 3, 3.30, 4 o'clock.
But then by saying, by telling them in 15 minutes, we've got to accomplish it.
Is that fair?
That's right.
Thank you.
I think we have to anticipate that maybe one or two other heads of state, heads of government, fully understand how to rule that level.
Absolutely.
Now you'll have prayers to see Romulo, the defense minister of Turkey, people like that, and the Lord Chester.
They want answers.
They'll call them.
We cannot expand beyond those.
They will have to be seen by God.
If there is another, you're going to have to say, I don't have to see it.
But if it's aesthetics, it's two or three more, and they just put them in at 1,500 arrows.
These people should be told to put them in at 1,500 each.
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Yes, the whole should be done with the State Department, for everybody, including the President and everybody else.
No.
Have you heard about whether or not they're going to be coming or not?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Tell me if Johnson comes.
Well, find out.
If he's coming, I'd have to see him.
I'd have him late in the day, and I'd have to have him on time.
You really want to go to Searson?
A couple of thoughts on this.
Bob asked that you consider two courtesy calls this week.
A fellow college member in on this call, Art, one of his sons, Senator Johnson, Eleanor's successor.
He's in town with his wife, four children, and his parents.
Bob emphasizes that this man, a Democrat, maybe, frankly, a majority type, could be of assistance to us.
five-foot hand-shaped photograph.
Welcome aboard.
Second session is Mike Bonner and Drew Fuller.
Mark Evans, Zachary Sawyer.
Mark, sir.
You're having a comeback.
Perfect.
You're here.
Thanks, man.
The final one is really his final one for the week.
All right.
David Altshuler, Assistant Secretary of State for Congressional Relations at the McCarty.
He's been there for four years.
This is a
We're leaving.
Yes, sir.
Two minutes.
We might do it just about the same time as Johnson.
Sure.
Sure.
Ten minutes or eight minutes.
Figure Johnson.
But those always need to start.
See you after you go to Congress and so forth.
But actually at the end, at least 15 minutes.
It will take a lot of hours.
It doesn't make any difference.
He'll understand.
He's fed him and the others.
This is the only thing for him.
His attendant's here today.
He said he's wanting to get him in.
Well, I'll talk with the leadership thing.
That's true.
So I can get a few.
I'll tell you what.
Get it right now and ask him if he could come in with you with the number that he finally comes up with.
All right.
That's it.
Thank you.