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Good God, seven?

I've given orders to all of them.

We've got to cut down on the number of people we had in the White House in these things.

Let's start with this first meeting.

Well, we had to get it.

We thought we were going to surround the whole room with this.

And from your group, I don't know, you, and you didn't use it.

I mean, just, we just got to get this done.

That's all we're doing.

I know, it's bad enough.

They're all sitting around.

But there's too many.

Too many.

We had a line.

Well, on the weight capacity program, we thought Schultz, Rumsfeld, and Herb Stein.

Now, maybe one of them could handle it.

Do you mean all three of them?

That was the plan, yes.

All right.

Okay.

And then John Orgman, Roy Ash, and reorganization in the second part of the meeting.

What part of reorganization is this going to be?

Well, this particular group, the economic affairs, because we're having the financial types.

And it would be appropriate, since they're already here, to move into that.

They'd probably have to swipe the whole thing because the leader's there, and then kind of concentrate on the figures.

Of course, George Shultz would be there, too.

I don't know if somebody could just speak him up, certainly, because it sounds so dull.

No, no, no, no.

He is an unbelievably bad reader.

Unbelievable.

He's indebted to that.

Well, I don't think Roy Ash is pretty good either, to tell you the truth.

He talks a lot.

John is pretty good.

He's... Hurley was better.

He sells.

Maybe he could... Rumsfeld was good.

I think Hurley would have been better at it.

Better.

Hurley would have been better at reading than we are at thinking.

Absolutely.

No.

He should be there.

But I think one man should breathe.

And on the other thing, too, you've got to use Shelton to get to a front that he obviously isn't.

Maybe Ronnie should take the lead on that, since he's the director.

He's going out and all that sort of thing.

Maybe it's a good idea to put it on that page and let him.

Well, you'll have to have him.

Let Rummy be the emcee of the event.

He's the man to serve.

And then he calls on Serge Stein to give a really good idea of what the other folks are trying to do.

Work it out, but I want these guys, this first meeting, I want you to put them through one hell of a ringer.

I want them to get out there and throw it on and on and on and on.

Just get out of it.

Is that clear?

Yes, sir.

Really put them through a ringer.

Okay.

Get the trees out.

What are you going to talk about?

See that they're doing it.

That's his job.

It's his job.

This is a domestic rating, and he has to put that through the dam.

It's like a barrier witness to whatever case.

Is that clear?

Yes, sir.

which are some of these briefings, but it's not that good, you know.

These guys, all they need is to get in the high spots.

They're just down here, and then later on you work on them separately.

You don't have to have any questions, I guess, though.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Particularly in realization.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

On the way to pricing and so forth.

Now, who is it?

So there'd be only 18 members.

There'd be 18 plus, uh, how many of them?

Yeah, you're concluding you and me.

Well, do you want to expand it beyond that?

It would be useful from a congressional standpoint to have a couple of others there.

We have the proposal.

We have Maxfield, Burr, Scott, and Griffin.

And then we have Sparkman and Tower, Banking and Currency.

They have to handle the sections of them.

Then we throw in Paxmeyer, because he's on the Economic Committee.

Long and Bennett, we've added them in.

They don't have a substantive role, but because of that briefing on reorganization, they're included.

Then we've got Albert, Tip O'Neill, and I don't remember if it's the new majority leader.

Ford and Aarons.

Then Patman and Phil Widnall.

He didn't pay her hearings on the bill.

And Laura Mills and Herb Schneidman.

And that kind of rounds it up.

Well, I don't know how I do.

Well, we get government people in both sides.

Both sides.

Let's make some expansion just a little.

Be four more.

Four more.

That makes you a total of 30.

Now, what I think I will do, I think it would be the right thing to do, is to set this up as a practice.

I think this is the first time for education.

And, uh, the way, uh, the way I want to do the analog in calling leaders is to say that the president had a meeting for breakfast.

When you talk to Mansfield, uh, you can say that the president had a conversation with you.

You don't get any else about this.

This is his, this is his time.

I don't know if you get your mind used to this.

When you talk to Mansfield, you tell him,

You're responsible enough to handle that.

We don't want to get screwed up down here.

You simply say, as I heard the president talk to you about, you know, getting together, about, not getting together, but about the bipartisan, the bipartisan meetings.

The first meeting will be a bipartisan one.

It has to do with the price of it, and the economic reorganization plans, and the way the price of it goes and so forth.

that this will be, there will be, obviously, we are planning others, but the others will have to be after the inauguration, obviously.

You see my point?

This is the first of a series of meetings.

Now, there will be a series of meetings.

We've got to agree with every one of those committees on reorganization, and each will be bipartisan.

See, Bill, I'm using this as a gimmick to get the bipartisanship in, because we just can't have

meet with our Republican leaders every weekend, or a month for that matter, and we're leading the minority.

Right.

Do you agree with that?

I do.

Eric, I'd like to have more briefings with the chairman and ranking members of the reorganization before getting off roll-up.

With me?

No, I can't participate.

But you wouldn't object to having them in the Roosevelt Room or something?

In the Roosevelt Room.

John, the brief, the various committee chairmen.

I will not participate in a whole series of any more meetings than this one.

This is my bipartisan meeting.

And the leadership here is so strong.

They accepted the foreign policy deal, which the name comes there.

I, of course, will read them on that.

But this is the first one.

It will be this.

The first leaders' meeting will be after our Republican coalition veto back the inauguration, you see.

We've got the 21st and 22nd on Tuesday.

And by all the jackasses, now, see my point,

and then have the full leadership.

By that time, they'll all have been elected to the inauguration.

That'll be on Tuesday, you see, on Tuesday morning.

You can also put it down in the cabinet meeting.

I covered that in the memorandum hall.

The cabinet meeting will be on Monday after the inauguration, you see.

And so that'll make the...

Do you think we ought to have those leaders being subdued early?

You know, so many of those guys get in late, frankly.

They let the bug out, and they go to sleep before old Coffman and others.

Wouldn't they all say they got to get out before the committee?

Well, let them go.

Why don't we have them at 10 o'clock?

It would be better.

What do you think?

It would really be better.

They'd appreciate that.

Frankly, one or two guys that step down at 10 o'clock, I mean, if they come in an hour earlier and fight the traffic.

That's right.

See, most of those guys are in a lousy mood, but frankly, a lot of those guys drink a lot.

And you can tell the next morning they're hungover, you know?

And I didn't need a clock meeting to frankly end a disaster.

I really didn't.

Now, let's see, if you met at 10, one purpose, of course, is for them to get out and breathe.

You see, you've got a way to break it up so they can go out and be in the briefing.

10 to 11, they'd be out in the briefs by 11.30.

That way you've really got 100 of the guys to get out there.

Right, and they'd get to the hill in time for the session in a minute.

That's right.

You see, you've got this so that the meeting wouldn't have to break up.

You wouldn't have them gassing around past the 12 o'clock.

Okay, the meetings would be at 10.

That's a better way to catch them than you could also catch them.

Also, having a big group only once a month will help.

I think if you can work in Jerry and you and maybe the clips now and again, it could be a more productive session, really.

Oh, yeah, sure.

Sit here and just bring them in.

Bring them in late in the afternoon.

That's what I was trying to do with that.

Just bring them in late in the afternoon and have them come down and sit and talk a little more importantly.

No agenda.

Right.

That's what they want.

Right.

Well, we're having a patient that holds out one of the very best things.

When there's no agenda, they kind of ramble and talk, but sometimes it's informative, and that's what they really want.

Well, we'll have one.

We must always have one.

It's a purpose for the meeting.

Now, how many is that, 25?

There'll be 29 with the government option.

See, if Rex had set that up, it would be approximately 29 or 30, but it would actually be well set up in the blue room so that there's more in it.

I don't want it in the family dining room.

That's not where the Dan, but the blue room, you know, you know what I'm talking about.

You see, we've done dinners in the blue room on occasion, and it's a very nice room that you have.

The state dining room is so large for that many people.

I think the only problem they have are the blue ones.

They don't have any place to receive them.

Well, I'll check it.

I think 30 minutes, maybe a little bit.

I remember one of the days you had one evening, I worked with you around that.

Put it in the dining room.

We'll put it somewhere else.

And make it a, well, it's not so they're sitting so far apart that we can just put them around there.

But they're very close together.

I think so.

Yep, give them more juice than half.

Serve immediately when they sit down there.

Put that off.

Put that food on the table.

And be done in 15 minutes.

I mean, we've got to push those people a little bit faster on those breakfasts.

They take too long to serve.

You know, the moment we sit down, don't wait for me, that's the main thing, put that down.

Serve me last, if necessary.

The main thing is to start serving the moment people sit down.

Okay, let's get it done.

I don't know, I'll come in.

I, with the leaders, I always walk around shaking hands with them.

But, what happened there,

uh, with their juice, and as soon as I shake their hands, uh, they'll go right up to you.

I think, perhaps you might want to open this up at 8 o'clock since the breakfast meeting.

The breakfast should be at 8.

Is there any time we have enough photo opportunities for the press at this first, uh, shorter meeting?

Sure.

Bring them in, uh... Yeah.

That's about it.

Thanks.

That's about it for this big time.

We'll do that right at the beginning of the fourth.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, and the breakfast should be at 8.

8.

Oh, no.

I don't think it needs to be at 8.

It could be at 8.30.

Well, sir, you see, you kept those closes too early last night.

I'm not going to have any more 8 o'clock breakfast.

It's a hell of an acquisition on people.

At 8.30, and also, that cuts it off a little sooner.

They'll have to be at Mike's Center.

The memorial service is 11 o'clock.

They'll have to be out at Mike's Center at 8.

Well, maybe it is a problem, what do you think?

Two hours, I think.

Well, you want to get it, though, but if it's 8.30, they won't start reading until 9.

It's an hour and a half.

It's an hour and a half long.

I think so.

I think it is, too.

I would do a good terminal time.

All right, you do.

I haven't had any meetings over an hour and a half, actually, so I guess...

that's a darn good way to cut this right off, and it'll get all of our loquacious people to discipline themselves.

You don't think it's going to make it too tight?

Not sure.

The cost-wage price control, we're really consulting with them and trying to get their input into it, and I think we'll move that pretty quickly, because Schneebly most definitely has something to say, you know, with Proxima, mostly, and like that.

I don't think we can move it.

In particular, Colin, why don't you explain without having two subjects for me?

Yeah, let's have them move it along.

As I said, you could tell when it's being re-digested, and you could tell how they're the same thing.

I wouldn't mind, this is a follow-up to his conversation, but yeah, follow-up to my conversation with the State Office, with the governor and all the other presidents, because we have these ideas of reorganization and so forth.

That's what I promised to be.

You know, you can just say that this is the first, the next will be, and then there will be meetings with the top aisle staff, people with the top committee will be treated.

But don't get early.

Now, early, we cannot commit me to any other meetings.

Is he trying to commit me to other meetings before we know?

I think, you know, that's right.

You see, if I get called, then I'll be obviously meeting to death before they show up.

That's not the time to do it.

But he must move forward briefing on the organization of the committee on something that can be done this week or next week.

The play is built for general meetings without the president.

That's right.

I will tell them at this meeting that there will be other meetings.

What I want to do, Mike, I want to see him move on.

And, uh, you can handle this directly with him, too.

You could say that the President wants it, that because of the recent revolt, he makes it the best time to be with us, as we see what revolves in, uh, uh, you know, in Paris, actually.

That we like the, the beauty of what we have time to do.

But we may be late in the afternoon,

I want you to show Albert the same thing.

See, I don't want to avoid being appealed.

So what I'm going to do is to do Albert, frankly, just the same as Stansfield.

Whenever I do that, about once.

Not very often, but you know what I mean.

But when I do mine, I do it with Albert.

And now...

We'll take care of our Republican leaders in a usual way.

They must understand that this is something we're doing, that these people want it.

Scott and the others, I'm not going to see them before the inaugural meeting.

But Mike, I want to see, for other reasons.

I mean, just telling him that the President thought that the matters he could discuss would be outdone that.

And if I could do it, I wonder if it would be all right just

What do you think?

Would it be all right for me to see him, you know, today?

What I'm getting at is that Mike, you know, that would raise, raise the happens with Scott.

I don't want people, you see, I can't trust Scott because he talks too much.

I think it could be done today, and it's, it'd be a good timing because the Democratic caucus is in until tomorrow.

Uh-huh.

Uh, and the House Senate, the caucus is going on right now, I don't know, before, I guess.

Do you think you could see Mike and other people together?

Mike would win.

Probably not.

Peter Hill.

Albert would win.

As a matter of fact, they haven't elected.

They have not elected a new leader.

We could actually get Mike, Albert, Ford,

It's got a good name.

Today?

Yeah.

Well, Neal's going to get it, everybody knows, but he is the lucky guy.

That's correct.

My fort won't get back, I'm afraid, until late this afternoon or early evening.

I see.

That's right.

I'm just trying to think of a way to get to my son.

and hover, maybe out of the way.

I don't think Scott would object to that.

He'd just bark and say, look, where are you going?

He's not going to be seen for so long.

So I think there are a lot of meetings with the Republican leaders alone that are better than people who are smart or better.

And then he's doing this in order to set up a light bar or something, right?

And, uh, the board isn't going to get it without it.

Because Albert didn't tell me.

I've got to make one other exception, but it is totally the only one I don't know, and none other to even be raised with in here, too, is Romkow.

I think Romkow, because of the desperate situation we're going into, is a very old friend, should come in as a courtesy.

Of course.

I know.

And the explanation of the others, who are really interested, say, oh, you do this, you've got to see the foreign minister, Chad.

You say, no, this is a personal matter.

President Romkow had requested it.

But the grand shot is all film.

So that will be all that I will see of those four people.

Yes, he could be last.

He should be last.

I think it's really best to see Chuck with me.

Don't you?

I think so.

I mean, we could probably live together.

Let me say this.

With Mike, I have found that it's best for me to see him alone.

I mean, there's just a way in.

He is one of the few people, Democrat or Republican, I'm able to say alone, who never talks.

He keeps a confidence.

He'll be against you in many cases, but he never keeps a confidence.

I think in the case of Albert, however, I think you ought to be there.

Do you agree?

Yes.

Because Albert feels, he never objects to us as that person.

See, what I want to talk to him about is I want to give him a little gasp and say, well, we've got a lot of problems this year and so forth, and I just want to lay the groundwork for cooperation and so forth.

The national report helps me, but the domestic field as well.

Here we are, and so forth and so on.

Now, you call, because we want to build, we've got to build up your relationship with these people.

You call Mike and see if I can't give it up to him now.

They need, I don't even know what you'd say, three, one of three and one of four.

The Speaker probably can't get that number, about four anyway, because of their caucus that's going on until four or so.

Well, they're having a caucus, and they will have selected one the other day.

But I would say that makes a lot of the Speaker alone.

The Speaker alone, and he will not, of course, be officially elected, I guess, until tomorrow.

when the whole House has to elect Mr. Farage.

What else is coming up at that conference?

Well, they were talking about the end-of-war resolution.

The Speaker's been working all morning to keep it off the agenda, because he wants the government to do things proper.

It's from the very best I've heard, the end-of-war resolution.

There you go.

I'm talking about the negotiations.

That's the point.

You're hitting that hard.

Yes, sir.

You sure are.

Don't rock the boat.

Will you bring up Vietnam and the leaders?

They were on, sure.

But it was on Friday.

No, today.

Okay.

Everybody was going to handle it that way and go on with it.

That's what I'm happy with that.

On the details, I don't want to get sealed open.

We can't talk about it.

We really can't talk about it.

I guess that's why we had some negotiations.

This is the time to knock on the door.

That's all.

That's all they have to do.

Well, the speaker can give you a good report this afternoon, too, of what happened in their caucus.

Well, they're meeting all day, see.

They're in session now.

They started at 10 and they're going to 4.

They get some committee assignments and seniority and all that stuff.

And he's...

It's silly to me that they'd get on with anything like that with ongoing negotiations.

Who is working on it, Robert?

Who's working on it?

Well, I don't know about anybody.

Tip O'Neill is one of the active guys trying to push the resolution.

And the Motion Democratic Study Group is trying to push the resolution.

They're trying to get a resolution.

And the Speaker and Tiger Teague, who's their caucus chairman, have been trying to hold off the agenda for the day.

Well, he's working our side, of course, you know.

Eddie, and Tiger Teague, and Joe Wagner, and the southern guys.

That whole bunch.

The son of Montgomery.

Great.

We're going to have that man a little more often, too.

Oh, you should just go talk to our opponents.

Yeah.

They just come in to lie and bitch, and the southerners at least come in to help.

I think it's important to move rapidly with our new 43 freshman house members with some sort of event token because we want to lock them up tight with such a large class.

And if we can get them on board soon, I think they did that in a long time.

What do you have in mind, Steve?

Well, Jerry has done something.

Yeah, he's having a briefing Friday on the Hill.

Well, stop them.

They're briefing.

Well, stop them.

You might have them down here.

Well, I told them that there was a procession, a wide session with their wives.

I think they'd appreciate it.

Yeah, I know that before you knew about the Democrats.

Well, you have the Democrats, too, really.

You wouldn't have to give them a talk or anything.

It's just kind of a token.

You're all new in Washington.

Your wives love the city place.

And it might be another opportunity.

Near term.

This is according to our discussion this morning, though.

Right.

No, it's in.

Well, I get it.

I agree completely with it.

But I'm just thinking of whether or not we ought to.

I'd like to think of Republicans alone, but I don't know how you can.

Well, you could do a reception alone, I think.

But you could have a breakfast sometime with just a run-up

I don't know as we need to get a reception for the Democratic members.

Why is that necessary?

It's not necessary, but I think it would be appreciated by those that come to town.

They catch the pedal from their wives so often when it comes about the White House.

The Democrats.

There's been very little left for Republicans.

I don't know why we have to do most of the Democrats that are elected this time.

I think we're pretty far on the left.

Well, we've got three senators we're working on, pretty hot and heavy, that we hope will swim over with us on many issues.

And there were some new Southern Democrats elected, not many, but some.

My God, they're not too much to the Democrats, are they?

No, they don't.

They lost a week, ain't they?

Except for the Senate.

About 22, I think, in the House.

Probably two in the House.

So I've got to get this all out of the way right now.

Two years ago, you had, I think, all the fresh heat.

I know.

I did.

I'm just trying to think of how you do the Republicans and get them in a different venue.

See, I don't want to do it.

It's foolish to give up a reception.

I can't give a reception and do a practice with it, too.

That's really messed around.

I feel the humility.

Which is more important, doing the practice with the Republic or the reception for everybody?

Not practicing the reception for everybody is more important.

I really did.

The Republic is more important.

I don't want Gary O'Donnell to talk to me about it.

For me, it's me for 43 seconds talking about it.

And I do it.

I possibly, possibly might be able to do as much of this now.

You know, we're giving them a lot of, I'm going up Friday.

This seminar is heading for the 43 new guys.

And John R. Whitman's going up.

And we're putting a team together to give them readings all day long.

We spend a lot of time with them.

And I think Gary and I have to appreciate that.

That's this Friday.

But you see, I cannot go.

Well, as a matter of fact, Elijah participated in a seminar on Friday.

They could bust him down, maybe, to have a reception here.

I know.

No problem.

It's no problem.

Six o'clock.

You can get it out there and then come back.

My point is, how can you do that, though?

How can I do that?

I don't want their wives living.

You see what I mean?

How do we get a chance to crack the Republicans alone and then maybe have a reception for everybody?

You're way too early for that.

A big group that started to have them, we could have them down with a small group in the house.

We're breathing with the staff together.

You could come in and make a pitch and leave, but it's too many.

The breakfast is the only other thing, but then we're really spending too much on them, I think.

We've got all of our little small work to do.

We can't do that right now.

Well, on balance, I think it's better to go forward with a reception for all the freshmen and their wives and get that out of the way.

And I agree.

And worry about briefing them later on.

Yeah.

After all, you don't want to get it all done.

They can come in and have a drill at the White House, a little lunch, even if there is a Democrat.

I think if the cabinet came, too, you know, and mingled around with them, that's good stuff.

All right.

We'll set that right again in six o'clock.

Well, sure.

I don't think in this instance, if you get into the cabin, then you've got to have a vice president and everything else.

And I don't think you've got to have a problem with him in the receiving.

I think we need to fight this.

Or do you think we should have a cabinet there?

So it would be nice for the members to meet the cabinet and for the cabinet to meet the new members, informally.

There may be a protocol problem.

You see, you understand too, we don't have a new cabinet yet.

They haven't confirmed it.

We've got the old cabinet.

I think it's a hell of a problem right now.

I think what I do, I just do why it matters.

I think the capital of this show would be Baghdad.

But I think here, I would have people that have to work with a homely business, and they should not be able to receive money, so it's not that easy.

But the only people that should be there are you, two, three of you, and your group.

And our colleagues should be there early on.

Guess if you should come.

People that are really going to mean something to them.

Don't have any catalogs.

Don't go down to the Flanagan's and all that group and say, I don't want to do that.

Just the people that, or who you suggest on the finance side.

Yes, sir.

I'd like to see Ash there, because he's the Ryan.

He does have cabinet status.

That's right, I didn't make any words.

Earl, he's in the White House.

See, but I wouldn't have Schultz.

Right.

Earl, Kissinger, Ash, all of them.

And a couple of my staff that'll be working in the House.

They were eating me there.

You need to be there and be one with yourself.

But you, you, if I were to try and suggest that you fellows would be well advised, perhaps, just to come to work.

I wouldn't come, as a matter of fact, I wouldn't.

I would suggest do not come with wives.

The rest of you, if you're not there, if you're a wife, it doesn't mean anything to be there.

Do you agree or not?

I do.

And then you come and, uh, and they just work those crowds.

Fair enough.

Good.

Friday, 6 p.m. Friday the 6th is a good time.

And how, uh, an hour, it would probably be about an hour and a half, really, when we consider the tour upstairs.

Do you want me to go to the seat where I was present?

Yeah.

What about, uh, uh, the Speaker, and Jerry, and, uh, and, yes, I think you should have the House in the big file.

You also, if not the Vice President, you should get into that thing, that he's got to stand in the line, and he's mentioned twice in a while.

Do you agree with me?

I do.

Now, Carl, I was a constitutional officer.

I was looking at it.

This is for the Congress.

Would he be in the receiving line, though?

Oh, no.

You can't have him, because he has to have, uh,

That's the other problem.

Do you think we should have the speaker at the end?

You see, we've got a problem with receiving lines and so forth.

Well, if you do it first, and if the speaker comes through first, then we could arrange that he comes through first.

And that's sort of how we cover that protocol problem.

And he doesn't care.

Well, if you have the speaker, you go ahead and watch the rest of the event, don't you?

You're sorry about this, isn't it?

You agree?

Yes, you do.

Somebody would forget to speak.

Well, the point is then, but don't let him stand in line.

However, this is an occasion to find him to hear yesterday's interception.

And I have another vote.

I invite the Chief Justice to close the conference on comparison.

That's something you need to work on.

It must be good, yeah.

It would be great.

See?

Gee, it does seem to be a good idea.

Why not?

It's a bipartisan speech.

A bipartisan discussion.

We are going to just go through this.

Let me say it again.

I'll speak to you right there.

And you've got to talk to people in the government, Jeremy.

That would be really impressive if you could meet with us there.

I'd work well with Jerry's seminar for our new houseguys because they could just come in mass down here and get a bus and do that and then go back up there for dinner.

Right.

That'll be Friday.

There's no problem with the funeral service thing.

I hadn't thought it would if it were a funeral.

I see.

But it is a memorial service.

You see, this funeral is over, so this is a memorial service.

I see no problem with that.

If it were a funeral, that's the point you should make.

It's because it's just a memorial service.

The funeral is over.

It's a perfect funeral.

You just can't leave it.

Okay, we have Mike at 3 today and Carl Robert at 4.

And then Friday morning, 8.30, we have breakfast.

And that evening at 6, our reception for freshmen.

Now, our breakfast will be at 8.32, as we have just for our shooting.

Because I tell you, our breakfast is great for accidents and for cops.

And the leadership needs a 10 o'clock.

And the leadership and the captain and the captain will all get 10 o'clock.

But it's had an enormous advantage to get some of the heck out of there at some reasonable time.

Do you see any signs, for instance, that you've got a press photograph?

Oh, no.

I don't have a photograph.

I think it's a...

I think it's the inevitable result of her coming across photographs of the

Press notes will have to ask me.

It has to be sent to me.

How do you explain seeing the Democrats?

That's the problem I've got here with the first thing.

The first photograph, really, that I was seeing the Democrats before you see the Republicans.

I think you can say that you've met with Jerry Ford and Hugh Scott.

I met with Hugh Scott, and I couldn't believe it.

We, before Christmas, as soon as he got back from his trip to Far East, in this office.

We met here?

Yes, sir.

Yeah, fine.

We all say that I've met with Scott before, and I haven't met with Albert and Ben, and they go, okay, that's worked out.

Fine.

You get, you get them on the phone.

Work it out.

Three o'clock to one, four, four thirty to the other.

And, uh, you come, and Mike, come along.

And, uh,

You can talk about confirmations and how fast he's going to move those because he's pledged to move them quicker.

He's also pledged to slip back the budget submission date to him.

So there's some things that you can talk about.

You want to talk about three videos, which I'm not going to deliver in person.

I'm going to talk about some special messages and so forth when we're done.