{"conversationCode":"830-005","tapeNumber":830,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-830-005","startDateTime":"1973-01-02T21:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-02T21:41:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jan-1973","startTime":"4:37 PM","endDate":"2-Jan-1973","endTime":"4:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:37 pm and 4:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 830-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 830-5\n\nDate: January 2, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:37 pm and 4:41 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time after 4:37 pm.\n\n       Request for Charles W. Colson\n\n       Lyndon B. Johnson\n            -Attendance at Truman memorial\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:41 pm.","filename":["830-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"830-004","nextCode":"830-006","transcript":[{"start":13.06,"end":15.24,"text":"This is all right."},{"start":15.68,"end":16.6,"text":"Just so he knows."},{"start":17.32,"end":20.79,"text":"And then I decided to travel a few minutes here."},{"start":21.11,"end":24.87,"text":"I want him to be informed so that he will not come."},{"start":24.89,"end":25.57,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":25.61,"end":25.68,"text":"See?"},{"start":25.7,"end":27.48,"text":"I can have us both on it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate logistics regarding the attendance of former President Lyndon B. Johnson at a memorial service for Harry S. Truman. The President directed Bull to relay specific instructions to Charles W. Colson to ensure Johnson was properly informed of the arrangements and discouraged from attending. The brief exchange focused on managing these sensitive high-level protocol matters.","topics":["Lyndon B. Johnson","Charles W. Colson","Harry S. Truman","Memorial service","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:45:05.751Z"},"topicSlugs":["lyndon-b-johnson","charles-w-colson","harry-s-truman","memorial-service","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":44,"audioFiles":[{"file":"830-005.mp3","bytes":1056372,"durationSec":43.88,"bitrate":192592,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/830-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/830-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/830/conversation-830-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}