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See what the sophomore did again today.

Got 12 points again.

21 million shares.

1044.

They get a little glimmer.

And then they just soar down and you get a little bit of bad chances.

Totally instability.

He gets, well he has less perspective than you have.

That's what I mean.

And he hasn't, he hasn't been in the public eye, in the public life long enough to, there were quite a few dead recording accounts.

Have you ever heard also, you know, about the Rose thing, you had a chance to talk about it?

No.

Did you get a crack at her?

Yeah, well.

I couldn't give you a better situation.

Yeah, they just run it.

Right.

Steve Boat said the truck driver came up with what has to be the classic line of all time when meeting the president.

And he comes up and shakes his head and says, oh, yes, sir, I've heard so much about you.

Well, it's great.

I'd love to have 10 truck drivers sitting out there, 3 degrees, 9 ounces, just sitting stone-faced.

I said, 3 degrees a day, they probably wouldn't care the shape of it.

He's selected 50 people to nominate.

He's driven 4 billion miles in 44 years of driving without an accident.

I know, but it had a certain impact on these guys this year.

I did it like I was announcing

John Irvin was the ambassador to France.

That was fun.

I think it was after Irvin, but I didn't think I was well held up.

I didn't think I had all of that.

So then I had the Super Bowl games, and then I volunteered, and I didn't get any of that.

We've been doing that for about eight months.

It's really better.

You get absolutely covered all around.

The only thing you can do is if you go out twice a day, there are occasions when I have to, but if you go out twice a day every day, all they do is they have time over the martinis at lunch.

They make up for a couple more dirty Russians.

They cover everything at 11 o'clock.

I think 11 is better than 3.

And they asked about the, they asked again about

They didn't do it together the other day.

They're going to do it next month.

Ford told me to take a better move at it.

That's fine.

Not that the senators will.

They just ought to pass the same resolution.

I don't have any variation.

I don't know.

That's nothing.

It's just the same old crap.

There's certainly a lot less of it.

There's just as much here.

Where I was out there, it's the same.

The Congress is mine.

He explained that to me today.

Okay.

The meeting tomorrow with Rogers is over and we will hold.

Are you in office to leave that?

I'm curious to see if you will move forward with the current situation in preparation.

Okay, okay.

I don't know if Mark had a color or anything, but he can't do it.

It was a good idea.

I can see where it got close to Colorado, where it was, you know, the guys in Pittsburgh, Pirates, there it was yesterday.

I said, how can we rerun it?

Sure, Chef.

I think it will, because there's so much interest in that, in the story.

That's a good idea.

I've heard of it.

I don't know how it was.

It's kind of tragic.

The practice of eating very quickly, and we also added children.

It's a place that I remember the children very well.

Say it with me.

One, two, three.

Uh, is there anything else that you, uh, see, uh, that, uh, we discussed this morning that, uh, .

Well, we're talking about some of the folks.

There are some questions on, uh, .

I'm just, I'm just looking.

The rest of the truck driver of the year is not.

The truck driver is purely a political thing.

The senator is a political thing.

Well, except for the long haul, that may be.

I'm going to see them all Friday night.

Yeah, but this is again this week.

The question is, I could talk to Steve about this.

I don't mind spending an hour of time on that.

In fact, it's very easy for us.

We must have in mind the fact that it isn't something that is particularly serving the interests of the job plan.

I think you've got, I think you've got to, that part of the job is the appearance of contact with a range of people.

And the truck driver here is a total loss here.

that on anything and a changing event type thing like that is good.

But maybe one or two a week at the most.

There's no way .

And those are opportunistic.

You've got to take them when they come and when you see them.

are the two this week, for example.

George Allen.

Allen on Monday.

That's right.

And there may be another one next week, but something comes along.

If it does, I'm not the turkey raiser.

I don't know.

That's the code word.

You see, those are the kind of thing that I really feel like I just want to do.

And the truck driver falls into that same category.

The truck driver, the teacher, and the poster child, and all those things.

But except where there's a twist, like that blind Indian with the...

sculpture, you know, things like that.

There's things like that that are worth a stab at now and then.

But they, the Senator Johnson type things, I don't know.

I think you've got to do, okay, well, I guess to say that we've got to think in terms of this now.

I want every decision with regard

Let's really think about it.

And now I'm in control of something, and this may be good for me.

I mean, that I should enjoy doing, so I can get it.

But now I'm in, that's very hard to find.

But now I'm in, I do need to see somebody that's in love with me.

I was just going to say, beyond what you'd enjoy, there are things that are good for you that aren't particularly fun for you.

I don't care if the opportunity to talk with somebody who's got something to talk about.

I just feel now that we're not in the same position where we used to have people, remember I had to have you in the morning or so forth and we had people rush through here.

And it's wonderful, but it's like your points were so well taken about touching the fence.

You touch the fence, have a picture taken, get the hell out of it.

What do we accomplish?

You know, we keep talking about all this political stuff, and I'm not so sure that we want to go as far as we're going politically in some of the problems that you're doing.

Well, looking at things in terms of the new majority and stuff, we do want to do it.

No questions about that.

That's right.

Now, for a while, and that's something I haven't answered.

Does it make you function better as a person?

Maybe.

Probably not.

Maybe we're trying to change the political system, the political landscape.

All right.

Is that an objective in this term?

If it is, then what is the objective?

Where do we want to end up?

We want to end up, I suppose, in saying that the majority will, that we can get people that will vote for our party's candidates for the House and Senate, and eventually for our party's candidate for president.

That's what we're talking about.

And not let these people slip back into becoming

Democrats, regardless of anything.

In other words, I'm trying to leave something for the future and put in the best life I could find.

I can't.

Well, maybe that's the reason.

In a sense, the way you want to look at it later, you don't like the word coalition, so you use another word for it.

Let's use it for just personal.

What you're really looking to is to leave a Nixon coalition that is in place of the Roosevelt coalition, which was the last one there was.

Eisenhower never formed a coalition.

Eisenhower had a personal covenant.

And it couldn't be institutionalized.

You left nothing to you or to anybody else.

They could not pass it on, and I may not be able to.

Well, you may not, but yours is built on

How do you?

How do you institutionalize that philosophy in such a way that people can maintain their allegiance to it and express it when there is Richard Nixon on the ballot for him to vote for, or in the White House to support him?

And do you care?

I think you do.

Because you could change the scene for the next 30 years, like Roosevelt in 40 years, like Roosevelt changed it for the last 40.

That's right.

Although Roosevelt didn't do it on the basis of a horse.

He was around for, what, he was around for three, three, three years.

That's basically it.

Four elections.

Four elections, basically.

He was around for 16 years.

What Roosevelt created was everything.

In fact, he was around 20, as he made prominent in his career life.

So there's 20 years.

The Roosevelt period was 20 years, which is very good.

That's a hell of an achievement.

And then there was an interval of cultism, a hiatus.

The Eisenhower hiatus for eight years, and then Kennedy basically went back to the Roosevelt coalition, and Johnson sure as hell did it in the welfare state.

or is on a personal non-thing and left something that you put, left a void that you could work in.

Put something together.

How do you maintain that so that you can stay with it?

What do you do to do that?

The little things in this office won't make much difference.

The truck drivers and the Senators of Louisiana and the

and the Redskins coach or the, how to, how to kill a baseball player.

None of it's going to... Yeah, you've got to remember, too, you can't have the man appear to be totally isolated from people.

That's part of the things here.

The president has got to appear to be having them touching people.

That's why my view is to have one a day.

Oh, the schedule looks, well, you know what I mean?

And that's what he's got to do.

He's got to make up a schedule every day and put in big names.

I'll meet with Erwin and Kissinger and Holliman and, you know, put those names on every day.

I never want a schedule to appear that goes out there as if I'm not doing anything.

George Allen said a very interesting thing.

I want to report to you on that story.

He said, you know, George, you know, he said, you know, I, uh, truly appreciate it.

I want my chance.

He didn't work hard for the job.

And I said, well, I should be able to go in there and work hard.

And he said, well, it's a trouble.

It's a trouble.

And I said, well, I don't know how the hell did he get that idea.

And I think it is what it was.

I remember going to TUS and playing poker.

I walked every morning out here going, I didn't have anything else to do.

But the hard work thing, at least here in Georgia, and that was a day of hard work.

I just wonder how many people think that of me.

Again, anything we can measure, we don't think it's the other way.

You look at the stuff they're writing, they make the point that you...

have, uh, have you move around, that you go different places with, that you work all the time, that your vocation is the same, that your avocation is the same as your vocation, and so you, you stay at it.

That's the good thing about not playing golf.

That's right.

I don't play, I don't play cards.

I don't play golf.

keep this game, but that you've been working in your office there.

This is what I read, you know, being away from there, working in your office there.

You had even gone out for an afternoon boat ride, which is your custom down there, for Christmas Day.

I don't know if that was true or not, but that's the impression that came out.

I don't know.

I don't think we have a hard word.

It is important.

It's very important.

And it's always, particularly me.

I just, nobody gave a damn whether I was a hard worker or not.

I mean, yeah, they did.

He was criticized a lot for the golfing thing, until after the heart attack.

Then they didn't want him to work hard.

Then they wanted to preserve the golf.

But he was criticized a lot for the golf stuff.

Chad ain't nobody to give a damn about.

No one would ever mention him.

But you know, he was really a jack off.

But then he could do anything he wanted.

He just, he wasn't going to improve.

But I think he would.

And then it was Johnson, because Johnson created such a fuss when he was doing it.

Although Johnson, I often say he was the hardest working president we've had.

But, so he fooled even me.

But when I look at the record, he wasn't.

Johnson was someone like Conway.

He's like a, you know, he's like a cyclone.

He stirs up a lot of dust and then he blows away.

Well, the dust is still up there.

He goes away and I can see the dust keep blowing through.

They're both covers of the light level here.

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No, I don't think you can.

Coming on to this other thing, though, we kind of have, I told earlier, I mean, I told you earlier, you ought to come down and put down three goals.

Kissinger ought to put down three goals.

What the hell do we want?

What are they?

I mean, nobody's really thinking, Bob, in big enough terms here, that the early beginning of the beautiful paper, the difficulty with the paper, the very good message from the staff, was, predictably, it was a goddamn laundry list.

I mean, everything we're going to do now.

We've done a hell of a lot of good things.

And I read the paper over the last three years, four years.

There's a lot of good things.

Let's say foreign policy.

There's probably a lot of good things in foreign policy.

There's only two nice people.

else we did of course the lack of work i mean it didn't work it's not getting well anything

I mean, except for a very subtle change in the country, frankly, is revenue share.

Well, what's the potential?

What is there to do?

Maybe part of it is to ensure that we cool the country.

Sure, the primary is down.

That's good, too.

Sure, the drug rates are beginning to get up.

We're fighting.

Yet the very fact that we're fighting for a new philosophy, I mean,

the old establishment.

They must, for example, one goal is to destroy the old establishment.

And that's one thing that Colston understands better than any of all the rest of us, because he's great and beloved.

And I thought, if Colston and Buchanan are the two that understand the establishment, then I did.

But the rest of the time, I don't have much time.

I told Buchanan, he wrote his thesis, his big thing, because I don't know what Girard or whatever it is,

we're building into this, it has to be built into the establishment.

I didn't, you know, say it, but I do myself.

However, the old establishment, the old intellectual establishment, the old media establishment, and this is how they call it, the pain of this damn Christmas bombing thing, you know, it served one useful purpose, assuming it comes out of our eye.

It exposed our enemies for what they really were, you know what I mean?

Otherwise, they're ready to suck up

You know what I mean?

Sure.

Henry was ready to take them in.

And frankly, so were some of the rest of them around here.

Interesting, though.

It also, it exposed some of our friends for what they are.

And we've got to remember that, too.

It exposed Dick Wilson as a solid friend.

Yes.

Sergeant Roscoe Common as a solid friend.

Always.

And, you know, a few others that I said, when all this happened, they stood up.

You're making a mistake.

the president on this.

The president has proven that he knows how to deal with these people.

Roscoe Drummond had a hell of a great defense of that the president's the one who's been right on Vietnam.

He's the only one who seems to understand what it's all about.

And here, one of those guys went into a damn good analysis of the

Well, Eisenhower of Korea, Truman of Korea, they got into the two ways and made the point that sure, Eisenhower ended Truman's war, but how did he do it?

He did it by bombing the shit out of North Korea, including the dykes.

That's the language.

This is what these people understand about it.

got some of the political people out.

You've got, you could even have a chance of supporting him, a thing like this.

But when you get it to Robby Street, he's running for something.

I can see it.

I think Percy's the referee.

He's not running for something.

It also exposed Percy the week.

So that's probably fine.

I understand your concern.

You know, you mentioned that in one of those notes that

right away with Percy.

His motivation is absolutely wrong and he shouldn't do it.

On the other hand, Percy now gets totally to his interest to get as close to you as he can.

To get on with it.

It's the only way to get on with it.

And if we are smart enough to never be taken in by the son of a bitch, but to use it,

And then screw it.

We ought to do it.

We ought to give him back what he's given us for, not for four years, but for 12 years.

I agree.

And if we do that, we can, I would love to make the call.

I'd like to have the privilege of doing it in 1976 to Chuck Percy in July.

Say, Chuck, I just want you to know that the president, after, you know, he did want to support you and would have liked to at the convention, but he's decided to back somebody else, whoever it is.

Yeah, 68.

68.

He called and said he was going to have to backtrack the phone convention.

Yeah, he had to get me on the phone.

Yeah, we were out there.

He was in the apartment parts house.

He and Heather were ready to take it.

They were going to call me.

Well, first he expected that we did it.

First he, all that crap he had been giving Mitchell about, well, I can do the president, I can do Nixon more good by...

staying neutral here and shifting people around you know i'll help you more this way so you month after month wouldn't be clear that finally calls you to tell you he's going to go because of his promise of nomination in the seventh

We could use him.

Well, I think we should use Percy because right now it's to his interest to try to get your favor.

The only thing we've got to be sure of is that we don't get taken in by him and feel guilty because we don't.

Using him now is paying back all he owes us for 12 years now.

And you sure as hell can't trust him.

Well, the main reason is he shouldn't be present.

They said he can't be God.

That's what it was like.

I put the boy under her hair.

I had to thank her.

It was so great.

We missed all of it.

It was great.

Why?

Is he?

Yes, he is.

He's just not great.

No.

If he was your brother, he's a...

He never says anything about me.

Sir?

He always feels involved with the studio.

He didn't point out anything.

He didn't always complain.

He didn't have to think the opposite.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Which, of course, is...

He's basically... Sir?

Well, we've got a thing that we're trying to do, and I think we've got to put an end to your poor things.

We're going to go after it.

Let's go after it.

We've got four years to do it.

And then we can determine how we'll evolve this other bit, sir.

Well, destroying the establishment is only really a semi-step.

What really we need and we can do from here is to build a new establishment to replace it, which is destroying it won't do that much good because it will rebuild itself.

Well, that's why it works.

It hasn't replaced.

That just makes sense.

He said, well, something I don't understand about the national programs in science is we're not replacing Ed David.

And he says, that makes sense not to.

But he said, that creates a need for a new structure on an NSC document, which he's going to cover.

So I don't know what that all is about.

He said, I was thinking about that, you know, if you want to knock off the funding there, he said, you know, they get $100 million, of which $15 to $18 million is in direct fees, which is a major portion of their income at MIT.

They get from the defense department.

And I said, if you want to knock that off, the time to do it is before Elliott gets in there.

Because he said, once Elliott gets in there,

And he said, I think you can give Larry to Rush to take the action now.

Order him to get it done.

So, you know, there's one thing.

This is when you follow up with Church.

You follow up with Church.

Tell Rush.

Rush is the one.

And then Ted and Cat.

Bob, not you, God damn it.

No, no, Cat and Rush have gotten to follow up and get that done.

See, I didn't.

Cat didn't know about that.

See, George Schultz would have told us.

I didn't make it.

They said another thing.

So it occurred to me the president might be a little chagrined at our friends in Sweden and their performance.

And he said if he is, this would be a very good time to get the treasury people over the customs people to start delaying some of the Swedish goods coming into the U.S., especially their autos.

So their automobile people are highly dependent on the U.S. market, and you could screw them up at customs.

How do you do it?

I don't know, but I'll let him tell somebody.

Right.

I don't, but, you know, the guy thinks the right way.

Right.

He's looking at this, how do you tear things up?

That's right.

And all that.

Now, that raises the reason you called earlier, was the question of whether you had read his memo and whether you wanted to get together, as you had said.

I wrote it.

I sent it back to you, and then you covered a lot of stuff.

You replied to him, and he had some things that you wanted us to go over on.

You wrote a memo.

That's right.

Well, I want that followed through early.

Charles, I mean, early when you and Kissinger got us down.

The point that has to be made is that Kissinger cannot be the man.

Right.

Kissinger, that would drive Congress right up the wall.

He cannot be the man in charge of security.

Now the other thing is the question of Richardson and Clements and getting their orders on what DOD

to the Director of Central Intelligence that has been funded and operated out of DOD that he expects to move back.

And that's what he's trying to do.

He also doesn't want to get a memorandum written.

And we'll execute it.

But I mean, you've got to go through the system, through a system, set up a system.

But you don't want to work out a system.

But one that we can get by the Congress, especially if we don't explain.

He's got to be the top dog in this damn thing.

But not him.

We have failed in reorganizing the military and rebunding it.

We've failed in intelligence.

These are two areas we've failed in.

And it's part of the good part of the risk.

He says, on Dixie Ray over there, the woman, he says, you know, the reports we get here, he says, that wouldn't, she couldn't do it, but he, I said, is that really how you feel?

He said, well, no, it isn't.

He said, she could be doable.

If you feel it's important to put her, put a woman on it.

He said, the problems that she would have are, one, that she's not familiar with the bureaucracy, and they can tie her up pretty badly.

afraid of what they might do to her.

Two is the problem you have with Hallfield and the committee.

Because Hallfield, I said I had a tough problem with Hallfield when we put her on the commission because Hallfield just doesn't want women to believe they ought to be in places like this and you have trouble with him on that.

And then he just has some general internal questions of whether she can do it.

But he said that on the internet it may be doable.

If you decide to do it, I would spend some time with her and get her position.

I do think, he says, that we can find a man who would be better.

The question is whether you want the value of the woman

I don't feel comfortable with a woman, but that's the kind of thing we've been looking for women for, in one sense.

Not very successful women.

Frankly, I don't think you gain much with the women by making a woman head of the AEC, because women don't have any interest in it.

Now, you're going to see Roger Snow with the group.

He may raise the ambassador question with you, and I've been talking to him about it, and I've got a final re-run on the whole thing, just telling you how good a man he is.

I'll go over it with him, just so you know.

What I meant is, I will make the decisions on the part of him.

I'd like to go through this so that he clearly understands it.

I'd like to go through it with you first, so that he clearly understands it.

The other thing is that Elliot is anxious to spend an hour or so with you if one of you are willing to do so.

I know you're happy.

You may want to wait until I'm finished.

Sure, okay.

I should do.

I've got to get out of the speech next week.

I know you've got to.

Okay.

So I've got to get to Christ on Friday and I'm going to get another draft.

I am going to do it.

I've got to keep right on top of this thing.

This is more important than your speech.

And again, it's more important than sitting down with L.A. Bridges.

On the other hand, I don't have anything to get off.

Do something you should.

He's not a goddamn well-understander.

I want to see the chairman of the time.

She's alone without him present.

He understands that I want to see Clements alone without him present.

But he's got it.

And I think, at the right, when you're ready, you ought to spend the time the way you need.

Because you will go the way you need.

and a lot of the questions you do, I think he has a pretty good understanding of what he's supposed to be doing.

And it ought to be when Henry's here, too, you ought not to...

It's true.

I mean, Henry's got to work, so he's got to work with him.

And Henry ought to be here, so he should be after the negotiation.

I think he's got to realize he's got to be after this negotiation.

He's got to come for it.

Okay.

The only problem with that will be

What he walks himself into or doesn't in his testimony for confirmation.

And that, I suppose, I mean, I can see it tomorrow.

It's a terribly important decision.

It really is.

And we don't have that problem today.

We don't have any confirmation to say.

We don't have a confirmation anyway.

In case he knows what he's supposed to do.

All right.

That's a good idea.

What do you want after the... That would be the last time. 1131.

Yeah.

He's another Harvard MBA.

He's built a college in Wisconsin.

He started at Harvard.

He started at the Harvard Business School.

I said, well, I tell you, it's hard to tell you to avoid Harvard.

I know I have a life.

That's different, but it's quite different.

If they take an undergraduate, I'll make an exception.

I suppose.

No, you go this way.

I'll make an exception to the business school.

Fair enough.

But none of them, law school.

Not in law school.

We don't need a Harvard lawyer.

And there's a.

Good.

Which he really wants to do.

Directly.

And Louise Thorpe has to resign anyway because she's no problem with being a cousin of his.

You're right.

He wants to make a time commitment.

And there are other part-time commissions that they don't take as much time as he would like to put in.

And this one does take a fair amount of time.

It's not a full-time job.

What does he have to do?

Does he have the adequate qualifications?

I don't know.

A fair amount of time.

Does he want the job?

Yeah.

All right, I'll get it for him.

Good.

It's a nice thing to do for him.

All right, I'd be wondering if something were actually like to do a few things for you.

He doesn't want a regulatory commission.

He wanted to be a cabinet officer and the only other thing he wants

or an ambassador at large dealing with environmental transportation.

The thought is that he would like a face-saving offer, and if we make an offer of an ambassadorship, he will probably turn it down.

But we'll give him the chance to have a post, and if he takes it...

All we do is we lose this spot for two years, and he won't do us any harm.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

And if it's worth the gamble, we offer him one.

It's a small European country, and if he doesn't take it, what a time.

Now, Miller, as they say, is much more ambitious and less deserving.

He wants the appellate court in D.C. for the 8th Circuit, and there's no vacancy there.

He will not do you.

He wants the IRS commissioner.

I'm going to be the last thing to put him in.

Secretary of the Air Force for SEC General.

And none of these are possible.

We can't name him to the Postal Raid Commission with the promise of considering him when an appellate court seat opens.

No.

I think you're right.

We cannot consider him.

I'm going to put him on the commission.

Well, we put him on the commission without giving him.

Oh, that's one answer.

We're getting the answer to the character.

Oh, the price of the crooks.

Well, we had that one.

There's some questions.

What did I read?

What did you read?

That's right.

I got it.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I don't want him to be a man that you just...

Unfortunately, I got this on Rose's hand, if you remember.

I said, I had Tom call it.

Right, Tom?

But let Casey choose a suggestion.

You'll know more about it than I will do.

And that feeling.

Casey, let's go over.

If we have to cook, apparently we're not going to do that.

It's not a...

It's going to be great.

You'll be all right.

No, not every day.

I do two or three of them a week.

But only in a day.

But you wouldn't do more in a day.

No, not unless you did it every time.

You understand, in terms of time, you come to the office, you make a little too.

There's no problem with it.

And I suppose they're always going to figure there's something they should do just to waste time.

You know, the pressure just becomes the way they do it, right?

The pressure was very great on the truck driver and the Rogers post types were strong for it.

We can assign that to the majority, but I don't think it does.

I don't think we can.

But it's still, it's better to have the truck driver of the year than it is to have the, uh, some black Harvard Laureate or some black, uh, capitalism type or something like that.

Exactly.

It's the right kind of signals of the kind of drug that you're seeing in the mix of us when you're towards truck drivers, and I agree, and, uh, and Italians.

Rather than George Lawson.

Or the government of Clemente's, and the other people who care about them, rather than the George Owens.

They're right.

They're basically square, sports-minded, rugged Americans.

That's what we're talking about.

There are people

That's why I want to see the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

The whole point is, if this is a national event, it's not a Washington event.

Why don't you do the Washington Assembly?

Well, they argue Washington is the National Assembly.

Well, bullshit.

It's not the National Assembly.

Marvin is the National Assembly.

Is he doing it?

Yeah.

Great.

That's great.

Marvin, he's doing it.

And he's going to do the... His monologue is going to be 1812 over.

He's got the Valley Forge band.

They're using the...

Roger Wagner Corral as their, as their voice singer.

But it's, you know, another bunch of squatters.

They're accepted into the music world just like Ormandy.

You know, have, Ormandy towers above Jurati anyway, so.

Well, maybe it's not towers.

Oh, Jurati.

Because it would be exciting to, and Ormandy is no very old band.

But Ormandy is certainly the one that's best.

There's anybody that would consider Ormandy damn good these days.

Or are those in charge?

Although the orchestra is a good orchestra.

It's good to bring an orchestra in from the country and try it rather than having... And you can't really send the orchestra to Los Angeles because it's two-parted.

It's a friend of Bob and James.

I mean, isn't that good?

I mean, that's right.

You know what I mean.

That's right.

I mean, I don't know about you.

I don't know.

It's a good time for me.

But that's the thing.

So it's seriously, you know, it's a bad thing to have this combination of an American concert, you know, the pop concert sort of thing, plus a human concert, plus a symphony concert.

All three.

We've got three.

And you're going to attend all of them.

And they say, well, that's downgrading the system.

Well, importantly, that's the thing.

It's downgrading the system.

Yeah.

And it's not just downgrading the system.

It's recognizing the other concepts.

And they are going to like this.

They do.

I forget how it works.

Yeah, I guess so.

I've got to be there for that.

Yeah.

It's...

I've forgotten how it works, but it's...

I think that's what you...

Also, another way you can do it here is to have the Vice President over.

He didn't, he didn't, that's what we wanted.

He gave me one box, and I gave him another.

So you come in for the beginning of the American Music Concert.

It starts at 7.30.

You come in for the opening event and the first segment of that.

And then you leave the intermission of that concert.

And you drop by the youth concert.

You stay there for just a very short time because that's...

So you won't be able to take any money.

And then you move to the Dharani thing, because at the end of the intermission of Dharani, I had come to the Dharani park.

And so you missed the first part of that.

Oh, the band climber?

Oh, great.

So it's band climber, the Los Angeles Corral, the Valley Forge, commentary, grass, and all that.

And he's going to do factory and sea, and...

I think it's going to be a hell of a night.

And I think it's great to have the people like Roger and, you know, William McCormick Blair and

That's the kind of people.

Well, you've got the lawyer that you've fought so well, and I bet you David Krieger, the president of the Senate, he was the principal of Governor Bill Miller.

Now you've got a president who's got people like that.

I don't know if I've ever met you, but I think that's the one.

I don't know if I've ever met you.

I don't know if I've ever met you, but I don't know if I've ever met you.

Even our country is a bit above the level of the country as a whole, and I think it's a good thing to do some other music besides just a symphony.

I agree, and our world has always been a symphony.

Why the hell is this a symphony?

I mean, American music was a symphony of our country.

To me, I was referred to as a symphony.

Which here, if you see, divided into a symphony, to most people, is the latest music to a lot of people.

That's why we want the content to be 10%.

Not very many, but I think no more than 10% are receiving it.

I feel very strong about it.

I'm very convinced.

Also, in the parade, you're serving in the parade.

That's another thing.

You know, it was all about the White House and the White House.

I think that's what it is.

I mean, what is that?

That's a, you know, that the inaugural season takes more of a democratic, less of a religious tone.

Right.

We came in with the White House, and now we're going to back to it in a different manner than some of our taxpayers in the White House.

And doesn't that seem just as good?

You know, just go with the time.

I mean, that's what I like about Bernie.

He's got some of the best people working in the world.

I mean, that's what I like about Bernie.

I'm very excited because it's time to talk.

There's something to do at this minute.

I think we're going to get excited.

That's a big thing today.

Being in that hall when the president comes in, it's a big thing.

The big thing we have to remember about this year.

We're going to keep up.

We're going to keep the fight on.

We are going to keep the fight on.

I remember a huge crowd, a little town in Kansas, and 68,000 people there.

Just to see that plane fly.

Sure.

Just to see the plane fly.

I didn't wait.

I didn't see it.

Because I didn't even touch the camera.

But after the last day, when they looked at it, I was asking.

And they didn't even look at it.

There they were again, sleeping on it.

very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

I've almost decided against the Eastern Press Conference, mainly because of the fact that it's a show that I really hate, and it requires enormous concentration and preparation to be.

And I've almost decided to change the people of office.

I've decided...

And the way, I really ought to do it, even on your son's restaurant, but not when he takes the prices.

And the way to do the restaurant is just to walk out there in that green room.

You're on their cameras.

Stand there and do it.

That way, you're on the sun.

And again, you're on the camera.

You limited the White House regulars.

Sure, you're on the news, but you hit a little bit of news with your face and your ink.

The performance is all that we're, not for the performance part.

And I do.

Yet we're gonna have performance.

Yet we have to be, basically.

The three in one.

I don't wanna build up a crowd, you know what I mean?

But the three in one, I wanna make this, I wanna make your subject

It's going to be the three on one, right?

The thing I'll argue against here on out is the one on one, which is a compromise.

I remember, you know, he wants to work.

There's no one.

All three networks.

I see the three on one.

It's a totally.

There's something better bouncing around than that.

And here we are, with those goddamn press people for 30 minutes.

You know, I hate to lose that, but, you know, it's like all of a sudden, I'm not sure.

I think it's, uh, it's hard to remember, but it is a whole lot of things.

I think we're going to do this one for a while.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't, of course.

It doesn't.

You know, the thing to do is,

They used to do several out there in the restroom here in Rwanda, you know, just so we just got back to it.

But I don't think that, frankly, our great reporters in this room can.

Why do they?

They don't.

But what in the hell good does it do?

I mean, we've always said, gee, it's great, you know, it's such a reliable performance and all that.

But who the hell writes it?

Who in the hell says it?

They write a little bit, but not enough to do it.

You see, that's what it is.

And also, I don't think you have to worry all that much about the content performance.

That's right.

I think you should go out there and do it.

We don't anymore.

We do well enough.

That's right.

You're not going to have that.

We don't want the competition and all that.

But getting back to the final stage, we've got to get to the competition.

The country is hungry.

They really are hungry to see a leader and president.

They really are.

And we ought to go to the country.

God damn it.

I mean, we got a good reception in New York from up there.

We can go other way.

Only after the war is done.

But we're going to go to the damn country.

And as an only one-quarter kid, the son of a bitch.

I think that's the thing to do.

And let the kids come out.

And I hope.

I don't think I want to go to camp in the country.

I can't go to camp.

I agree that that's just got to be fun.

You've got to have something to do.

I can go to the city.

That's right.

I can go to honor the city of the district we live in.

You don't have to do too much of a speech-making thing so that the non-American kids have a ride through the streets and the crowd, the people, and all that.

That's right.

And give them a chance.

Give them the feeling.

You agree?

But we ought to get into the country now.

I do it on a fairly consistent basis, sir.

Just keep going.

Absolutely.

Rather than... One day, never say overnight.

Never say overnight.

Never, never overnight.

Except when I do something like the PWI or something like that.

For me to get out and go to a hotel to a dressing room here in this town, I think it's basically trying to be a loser.

You hear me?

Basically, you know, it's a Washington Press story.

Well, let me give you an example.

We've got 10 current records, which we have done over and over and over again, you know.

I've got to do it.

But generally, in terms of TV at night, it's hardly anything.

Once a year, we'll do it.

But let me say, with regard to the, generally speaking, the Washington events, I don't think the president popped into those things.

It means a lot.

I think you get a hell of a lot bigger reception at a convention outside of Washington than you do in Washington, right?

It doesn't have to be true, right?

The problem is, when you go to one outside of Washington, you have to get some kind of movie.

Yeah, pretty hard to go to the one

You don't have to give a whole speech.

That's the other thing.

Fifteen minutes.

I've got the brain.

I've got over 30, 30, 30, 15-minute speeches, period.

No more.

Sure, a little better.

That's right.

Could you guys count on it being a cool day and a long ceremony?

Good.

That was any better.

Talk ten minutes later.

Right.