{"conversationCode":"833-007","tapeNumber":833,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-833-007","startDateTime":"1973-01-04T13:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-04T13:55:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:53 AM","endDate":"4-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:55 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On January 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:53 am and 8:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 833-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 833-7\n\nDate: January 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:53 am and 8:55 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n       [See Conversation No. 35-82]","filename":["833-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"833-006","nextCode":"833-008","transcript":[{"start":1.74,"end":19.26,"text":"The way I am, I would start in, you know,"},{"start":40.62,"end":41.16,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":42.58,"end":45.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":45.26,"end":45.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":68.54,"end":76.28,"text":"You tried to puzzle that he was taken on on a personal basis."},{"start":76.3,"end":80.02,"text":"How could you represent him on a personal basis?"},{"start":82.78,"end":89.69,"text":"On a personal basis, can't make pretty rough personal attacks on the person that's supposed to, supposed to, supposed to."},{"start":89.71,"end":91.53,"text":"That, that, that, he just tried to puzzle by himself."},{"start":91.63,"end":93.37,"text":"He's not complaining."},{"start":94.33,"end":95.29,"text":"He asked for no order."},{"start":95.39,"end":95.65,"text":"He is not."},{"start":95.67,"end":97.13,"text":"You should put it that way."},{"start":97.95,"end":98.26,"text":"Sammy?"},{"start":128.88,"end":129.92,"text":"Hey, let's just go."},{"start":129.94,"end":130.52,"text":"Let's go."},{"start":130.86,"end":133.23,"text":"Suck harder than you can or I'll eat you up."},{"start":134.21,"end":134.33,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss the nuances of legal or professional representation, specifically debating the ethics of representing an individual on a personal basis while engaging in aggressive rhetoric. The participants contemplate how to frame a client's public stance to avoid the appearance of personal grievances or specific demands. The conversation ends abruptly with instructions to move forward with their established approach.","topics":["Legal strategy","Professional conduct","Public relations","Client representation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:48:49.976Z"},"topicSlugs":["legal-strategy","professional-conduct","public-relations","client-representation"],"audioDurationSec":146,"audioFiles":[{"file":"833-007.mp3","bytes":3512091,"durationSec":146.2,"bitrate":192180,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/833-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/833-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/833/conversation-833-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}