{"conversationCode":"833-016","tapeNumber":833,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-833-016","startDateTime":"1973-01-04T16:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-04T16:55:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jan-1973","startTime":"11:51 AM","endDate":"4-Jan-1973","endTime":"11:55 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 11:55 am. 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Ehrlichman\n                   -Timing\n             -Guidelines for meetings with heads of state\n                   -Kissinger, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                   -Carlos P. Romulo\n                   -Yen Chia-Kan\n                         -Taiwan, Republic of China\n                         -1970 White House dinner\n             -Reception\n             -Additions\n                   -Haldeman, Ehrlichman\n                   -Departing Cabinet\n             -Meeting with Yen\n                   -Length\n                   -Romulo\n             -Reception\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.","filename":["833-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"833-015","nextCode":"833-017","transcript":[{"start":0.31,"end":2.89,"text":"Believe me, I've got one minute, sir."},{"start":2.91,"end":6.79,"text":"Henry's just coming back from his office."},{"start":6.95,"end":8.61,"text":"All right, Bob."},{"start":8.63,"end":10.09,"text":"Bob, I have to ask you to check this."},{"start":10.13,"end":13.13,"text":"Did you want to see Bob and John are open today at 3 o'clock?"},{"start":13.57,"end":21.32,"text":"No, I don't have to... Or was that open today?"},{"start":28.58,"end":29.84,"text":"I'm not going to stand by."},{"start":30.54,"end":31.94,"text":"I don't know whether I can do it."},{"start":31.96,"end":32.94,"text":"I can make it or not."},{"start":34.82,"end":42.23,"text":"It's just a question of right now we've got to concentrate on some other things."},{"start":42.31,"end":47.65,"text":"If they can hold that time, I'll see if I can get through with these other matters by 3."},{"start":47.73,"end":48.21,"text":"Very nice."},{"start":51.64,"end":52.64,"text":"This is your end of"},{"start":54.09,"end":63.37,"text":"are acutely aware of the guidelines you gave in regards to meetings with heads of state on, uh, tomorrow, on Friday, that you would only see those three with Romulo on stage."},{"start":63.57,"end":63.93,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":63.99,"end":65.61,"text":"With Romulo being the only exception."},{"start":65.65,"end":66.77,"text":"This is an acquaintance."},{"start":67.79,"end":68.23,"text":"Not much longer."},{"start":68.27,"end":79.91,"text":"But Henry's coming with a recommendation, uh, historic recommendation that you see Vice President, uh, Yan of the Republic of China on the same basis that you would see the other heads of state."},{"start":81.02,"end":101.22,"text":"feels this should be an exception to the rule of management major significance a new mastermind in 1970 in the white house dinner that's a hard thing to call but all right you can't run that too late because i bet i call the big reception how long is that going to run this is going up to um"},{"start":102.95,"end":104.61,"text":"Don't add anything out of the crack now."},{"start":104.63,"end":105.57,"text":"There's absolutely no crack."},{"start":105.73,"end":107.77,"text":"All of them are, but nobody can add anything."},{"start":107.79,"end":111.08,"text":"Not even the secretary is leaving or any of that."},{"start":111.1,"end":111.32,"text":"Okay."},{"start":111.36,"end":115.7,"text":"We're starting at around four o'clock, so this is..."},{"start":115.74,"end":122.64,"text":"When we're about a half hour away, it's all right."},{"start":123.02,"end":124.91,"text":"All right."},{"start":125.13,"end":126.11,"text":"All right."},{"start":127.01,"end":127.35,"text":"All right."},{"start":127.37,"end":127.71,"text":"All right."},{"start":135.47,"end":136.89,"text":"Romeo may not be the last of us."},{"start":136.99,"end":140.4,"text":"I've got to get out of here before Saturday is over and get ready for that reception."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s daily schedule and finalized protocols for upcoming meetings with foreign dignitaries. The discussion focused on establishing strict guidelines for interactions with heads of state, specifically limiting meetings while granting exceptions for Carlos P. Romulo and Vice President Yen Chia-Kan of the Republic of China. Additionally, the President issued explicit instructions to close the attendance list for an upcoming reception, prohibiting any further additions to the guest list.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Diplomatic protocol","Heads of state","Taiwan","White House reception"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:49:40.820Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","diplomatic-protocol","heads-of-state","taiwan","white-house-reception"],"audioDurationSec":160,"audioFiles":[{"file":"833-016.mp3","bytes":3832726,"durationSec":159.56,"bitrate":192164,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:43.211Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/833-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/833-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/833/conversation-833-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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