{"conversationCode":"834-021","tapeNumber":834,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-834-021","startDateTime":"1973-01-05T21:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-05T21:55:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Jan-1973","startTime":"4:44 PM","endDate":"5-Jan-1973","endTime":"4:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:44 pm and 4:55 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 834-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 834-21\n\nDate: January 5, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:44 pm and 4:55 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Introductions at reception\n             -Party affiliation\n             -Congressional liaison office\n                   -William E. Timmons\n\n       Reception for Congressmen\n            -Arrangements\n            -Arrival times\n            -Length of time\n            -Reception line\n                  -Chief Justice\n                  -Vice President\n                  -Speaker of the House\n                  -Members of Congress\n\f                                               -34-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 834-21 (cont’d)\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -John D. Ehrlichman\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:55 pm.","filename":["834-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"834-020","nextCode":"834-022","transcript":[{"start":2.71,"end":4.33,"text":"I don't have one."},{"start":4.59,"end":13.14,"text":"I'll have one through the, uh, congressional liaison office."},{"start":14.44,"end":17.38,"text":"Find out who has this voice."},{"start":18.22,"end":18.44,"text":"Okay."},{"start":18.46,"end":23.29,"text":"Conventional, congressional liaison office."},{"start":25.25,"end":26.71,"text":"And we might allow Tim to do it."},{"start":26.89,"end":30.99,"text":"It might be good for Tim to be right there and be highlighted right next to you."},{"start":31.01,"end":39.73,"text":"He's got a little bit of an accent, you know, but I haven't listened, but that's fine."},{"start":39.75,"end":41.73,"text":"You can do it."},{"start":41.79,"end":45.81,"text":"Maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just important."},{"start":45.87,"end":48.85,"text":"Well, it might be good for Bill to be in the audience."},{"start":48.88,"end":49.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":51.8,"end":52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":56.99,"end":67.78,"text":"I don't really care that much about it, but we will plan to proceed on that."},{"start":67.8,"end":84.04,"text":"This one goes directly downstairs from there and then it can go up here."},{"start":96.89,"end":112.96,"text":"I think we should go directly downstairs because you see lots of stuff."},{"start":112.98,"end":116.23,"text":"I would assume that most of these people will arrive on time, if not early."},{"start":116.85,"end":117.57,"text":"Good."},{"start":117.59,"end":124.25,"text":"Of course, I'm going to be doing that, but we might get lost too, not knowing what to do."},{"start":127.34,"end":131.36,"text":"I think the whole thing can be done in less than 45 minutes."},{"start":131.42,"end":132.56,"text":"Thank you for the truth."},{"start":132.58,"end":139.26,"text":"Incidentally, I know it from the line that the Chief Justice and the Vice President, you know, the Vice President, he ranks the Chief Justice, you see."},{"start":139.28,"end":144.82,"text":"As a matter of fact, the Speaker comes before the Chief Justice, too, you see."},{"start":145.87,"end":151.24,"text":"Chief Justice comes first, then the, I mean, Vice President first, the Speaker is second, and then the Chief Justice is second."},{"start":151.25,"end":152.46,"text":"And after that, the leaders."},{"start":152.48,"end":163.12,"text":"And after that, the Senators and Congressmen, and every day a common order, and then you've got the government, and then you have the House."},{"start":171.94,"end":173.42,"text":"See you at the doctor's."},{"start":173.44,"end":173.84,"text":"It's free."},{"start":173.92,"end":174.24,"text":"I'm down."},{"start":174.28,"end":176.06,"text":"Don't have me come out on TV."},{"start":176.09,"end":177.41,"text":"I'm just working."},{"start":177.65,"end":178.61,"text":"I'm just working."},{"start":178.63,"end":179.07,"text":"I'm just working."},{"start":179.23,"end":180.25,"text":"I'm just working."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate logistics and protocol for an upcoming White House reception for members of Congress. The discussion centered on the event schedule, the arrangement of the reception line, and the proper hierarchy for attendees, including the Vice President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice. Additionally, they evaluated the role of the congressional liaison office, specifically the involvement of William E. Timmons, to ensure the event proceeded efficiently.","topics":["White House protocol","Congressional relations","Event planning","William E. 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