{"conversationCode":"835-001","tapeNumber":835,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-835-001","startDateTime":"1973-01-08T13:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-08T13:42:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:28 AM","endDate":"8-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:42 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:28 am and 8:42 am. 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Colson\n              -Ehrlichman\n              -Photographs\n              -Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 8:42 am.","filename":["835-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"834-023","nextCode":"835-002","transcript":[{"start":0.29,"end":1.43,"text":"Can I see if anything we have today?"},{"start":1.45,"end":5.39,"text":"Uh, no sir, there's no requirement, excuse me."},{"start":5.41,"end":7.59,"text":"I'll call you over at the O.B."},{"start":7.77,"end":8.07,"text":"today, sir."},{"start":8.1,"end":8.81,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":9.07,"end":14.88,"text":"Just wondering, what do you know about what we can call you over the weekend?"},{"start":14.9,"end":18.22,"text":"I actually spoke with John Hurlman, and I spoke with him recently."},{"start":18.26,"end":24.26,"text":"Um, if you'd like, sometimes we can use impressions of morality, and he was expecting that."},{"start":24.34,"end":25.39,"text":"All right, I'll see you right away."},{"start":30.62,"end":31.7,"text":"Why don't you call him?"},{"start":31.8,"end":32.23,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":32.24,"end":34.87,"text":"He's coming back to the east."},{"start":34.95,"end":37.67,"text":"He is coming back to the east."},{"start":38.39,"end":44.49,"text":"He doesn't expect to hear from you that I spoke with him."},{"start":45.55,"end":50.43,"text":"Yeah, you told him I was away."},{"start":50.53,"end":50.91,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":50.93,"end":56.22,"text":"If you have something that you need to."},{"start":57.93,"end":58.99,"text":"You can put it there."},{"start":59.32,"end":60.28,"text":"Let me around it."},{"start":60.34,"end":62.95,"text":"Set it up around about 30 yards."},{"start":63.81,"end":65.81,"text":"I'll come over here early."},{"start":88.65,"end":89.85,"text":"I mean, they have"},{"start":118.57,"end":121.11,"text":"or is it the usual?"},{"start":121.15,"end":128.72,"text":"Somebody wants to get a picture taken or somebody's in town and they want to see you for five minutes."},{"start":128.74,"end":130.28,"text":"That kind of thing works."},{"start":130.3,"end":132.78,"text":"I mean, that's, you've got to go out there."},{"start":132.8,"end":136.92,"text":"You don't, any day of the night here, we've got some like that by, we'll try to work out."},{"start":136.94,"end":143.75,"text":"I don't do, I mean, I don't want to be, I don't want to be just giving you a quick check on it."},{"start":143.77,"end":144.87,"text":"I want to see what was going on."},{"start":144.91,"end":146.03,"text":"So that you can have, you,"},{"start":153.86,"end":154.82,"text":"You see, that's everything."},{"start":154.86,"end":158.52,"text":"We haven't done that."},{"start":158.56,"end":168.04,"text":"It's better to do it that way than get it piled up too much and do a whole hell of a lot of it one day."},{"start":170.79,"end":172.61,"text":"That's all I can say for now."},{"start":173.03,"end":174.73,"text":"It's, uh, it's, uh, sort of a secret."},{"start":174.79,"end":176.79,"text":"It's either staff or email."},{"start":177.07,"end":177.49,"text":"It is, sir."},{"start":179.02,"end":181.71,"text":"Sir, I want you to hold off the meeting until he's free."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to review the President's upcoming schedule and coordinate administrative logistics, specifically regarding meetings with key staff members like John Ehrlichman, H.R. Haldeman, and Charles Colson. Nixon instructed Bull to proactively manage short, routine meetings and photo opportunities to prevent scheduling backlogs. Additionally, the pair discussed the status of Ehrlichman's trip to Vietnam and managed communications regarding the President's availability.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","John D. 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