{"conversationCode":"835-002","tapeNumber":835,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-835-002","startDateTime":"1973-01-08T13:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-08T13:42:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:28 AM","endDate":"8-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:42 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:28 am and 8:42 am. 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Ziegler\n              -Special envoy for inaugural ceremony\n\f                                                        -2-\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                             Conversation No. 835-2 (cont’d)\n\n                         -Eisaku Sato\n                         -Henry A. Kissinger's recommendation on meeting\n                 -Edward R. G. Heath\n                         -Camp David\n                 -Earl of Cromer\n                         -Camp David\n                         -White House dinner\n                         -Scheduling\n                 -Ziegler\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 8:42 am.","filename":["835-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"835-001","nextCode":"835-003","transcript":[{"start":0.19,"end":6.46,"text":"Mr. President, I have two things I want to talk about."},{"start":6.52,"end":23.03,"text":"One is, our Prime Minister decided I was going to be here as a special envoy, attending the inauguration ceremony."},{"start":24.6,"end":25.62,"text":"Yes, it was recommended."},{"start":25.66,"end":25.86,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":25.88,"end":27.06,"text":"Do you need me?"},{"start":27.14,"end":29.98,"text":"Besides, I'm trying to match it up."},{"start":30.14,"end":32.36,"text":"What are we calling the organization this week?"},{"start":32.38,"end":34.6,"text":"We're pretending we're planning to have a meeting."},{"start":34.64,"end":36.12,"text":"They should be on the 23rd."},{"start":36.47,"end":36.65,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":37.93,"end":39.03,"text":"They'll be here for the 21st."},{"start":39.05,"end":39.19,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":41.53,"end":42.79,"text":"23rd through the 25th."},{"start":42.81,"end":43.23,"text":"All right."},{"start":43.27,"end":43.85,"text":"I guess that's it."},{"start":44.09,"end":44.97,"text":"What's that?"},{"start":45.01,"end":48.87,"text":"Yeah, that'll be a meeting in the hour."},{"start":48.97,"end":50.03,"text":"All right, so come on."},{"start":52.18,"end":62.07,"text":"In regards to Heath's visit, I heard that you indicated that there should be a meeting at Camp David."},{"start":62.11,"end":65.15,"text":"You indicated that you support Cromer."},{"start":66.93,"end":72.58,"text":"Do you want a meeting at Camp David or the White House?"},{"start":72.6,"end":74.7,"text":"I don't know if I agree both."},{"start":102.25,"end":102.49,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":102.55,"end":104.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":104.13,"end":105.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":106.5,"end":107.32,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":107.54,"end":108.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":108.96,"end":111.32,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":133.83,"end":145.72,"text":"Is there anyone else you'd like to sit with?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed upcoming presidential scheduling requirements, specifically regarding the second inauguration and diplomatic visits. The discussion focused on coordinating the attendance of special envoys, including Japan’s Eisaku Sato, and determining the appropriate venues for meetings with British Prime Minister Edward Heath and the Earl of Cromer. Nixon weighed the logistics of hosting these officials at either Camp David or the White House, ultimately finalizing scheduling preferences for the late January timeframe.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Inauguration","Eisaku Sato","Edward Heath","Camp David","Diplomatic Protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:52:41.865Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","inauguration","eisaku-sato","edward-heath","camp-david","diplomatic-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":160,"audioFiles":[{"file":"835-002.mp3","bytes":3849020,"durationSec":160.24,"bitrate":192162,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:43.714Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/835-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/835-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/835/conversation-835-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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