Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 835-003
Date: Monday, January 8, 1973 at 8:42 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/835-003

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[0:00] How are you doing?
[0:02] Fine, thank you.
[0:04] How are you today?
[0:27] All the things they get to do, I'll tell you that.
[0:32] the proper age and proper
[1:00] No, because you can't... That's right.
[1:14] You can't remember.
[1:18] You think you will, but you don't.
[1:20] There are too many things.
[1:23] And I'm getting a new cassette rearrangement that he is going to pick one up, a sign, so that we should take a point off of my Vanessa's eye that we have.
[1:36] These tapes are going to be about 14 minutes.
[1:40] And so for my memorandums, the final ones I don't transfer them.
[1:45] You just put them on those, and they're going to be less bulky.
[1:56] I think that with those to be filed, he should pick up, among that is one that transcribes too.
[2:03] The what?
[2:06] He should pick up at the same time the transcriber to be filed away with them somewhere so that whenever they go to transcribe these for your book or whatever.
[2:15] Oh.
[2:16] That's a problem.
[2:17] Oh, I see.
[2:17] I see.
[2:18] The other side.
[2:19] Small changes, I don't know.
[2:20] Oh, the other side.
[2:21] The other side.
[2:22] Does he mean the receiver?
[2:23] It may be that in a lot of machines, you can do both.
[2:27] So, uh, did I ask him if he could do that?
[2:34] Oh, is he here now?
[2:39] Oh.
[2:41] I'll let you know.
[2:54] Although they can't eat it, that's nice, because it just has a tree, we don't eat it.
[2:59] I think that silver frame, that's what they wanted to do.
[3:04] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:08] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:10] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:12] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:16] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:19] That's what they wanted to do.
[3:23] His voice, I was so proud.
[3:24] He was so sweet.
[3:26] We've got to get him in sometimes.
[3:31] There's no reason why he shouldn't come.
[3:33] No, I don't think we ought to be able to get him to come.
[3:37] He's never come.
[3:37] Well, of course.
[3:38] We have everybody else.
[3:39] I haven't written you a letter.
[3:40] We've got our friends.
[3:41] We're bringing all kinds of people.
[3:48] You know, they should come.
[3:51] I think it's strongly recommended that you forget the worship service the Sunday after the inauguration.
[3:57] Why can't I do it?
[4:00] Well, there'll be, say, 35, let's say, 40,000 people in town.
[4:04] Oh, that's a lot of people.
[4:07] Well, I've already got a lot of people asking to be invited.
[4:10] For once, I've got to know if it's one of them, and if it's not, who's the last person on earth to mind one, which is kind of complex.
[4:16] I know, I'll mention it to them.
[4:21] But I guess what, you know, the actual reason we're trying to do it is to ensure that, you know, we're trying to take care of our ministers.
[4:32] I know, but I think it might be a suddenly that the family could go out somewhere and we can take a church where we've got to be.
[4:40] Maybe go out to help.
[4:41] Yes, yes.
[4:42] We ought to go to something.
[4:45] But I think you see my point.
[4:48] We make 300 people happy.
[4:49] Yeah.
[4:51] and $35,000 unhandy.
[5:04] Well, let them all come like other people.
[5:08] There are too many.
[5:09] I mean, like all the ones who have participated in the past,
[5:14] The other day, because Huffman asked to come and some others, and I asked for the whole list of the ones who have participated.
[5:22] Invite them, let them go to the inaugural, just like everybody else does.
[5:25] They don't all have to participate with them.
[5:30] When you invite them, what happens?
[5:33] Do they have to give them the right to buy?
[5:36] Do they have to give them the right to buy?
[5:40] Frankly, most of them have as much money or more than a lot of other people who will be coming.
[5:47] Oh, sure.
[5:48] Our minister always has a friend from life.
[5:54] That's right.
[5:54] And I have only concern about you.
[5:55] Sure, they'll be mad if it's also didn't get them in, but the final one.
[6:00] The only way that we could possibly take care of the worship services is
[6:20] that and nobody else you could but people have been here they're always here and why didn't you invite someone like me across the country true true true but uh i see your point when you come to that and i say why the hell would you i you know you start on the lower road of the family where you got 200 of that we're not going to forget it's all under 200
[6:45] There'll be at least 200.
[6:46] There may be more.
[6:47] On the name of God, it's going to be 200.
[6:48] Because all of, you know, four years, all of the cousins have children.
[6:52] They're going to bring them.
[6:55] So far, we don't know if they're going to come in, but quite a few.
[6:59] You could limit it just to the family, the family.
[7:03] Oh, we'll let them all come through.
[7:05] But they are, it'll be that none of them can have the chance.
[7:13] And then I think in this next four years, we have to finish Pat.
[7:22] She has to recite one at a time, maybe.
[7:27] Her brother, one at a time.
[7:28] I told her, if you'll make a note among things,
[7:39] to use the overnight facility at the White House.
[7:42] One of the times she has to drown, and that can be on occasion, so it's a little damn solemn.
[8:06] Come in.
[8:06] Have a drink.
[8:07] It's 730 or so.
[8:07] I checked out.
[8:08] I said, I've got to go over.
[8:10] When Bruce, they called in at Eisenhower.
[8:12] Of course, Johnson.
[8:14] Always.
[8:14] He didn't get one damn about his guests.
[8:16] He never even showed up.
[8:18] But Eisenhower, always after dinner, went off and played bridge.
[8:22] He never stayed to talk to his guests.
[8:24] No, and the thing is, if Pat can either show them the house, or Julie can, or something.
[8:30] Well, let's see how far they go.
[8:31] Or they can just go upstairs.
[8:33] They can go downstairs and
[8:37] Unless we see it.
[8:38] Oh, we can't fix it.
[8:39] It's not working.
[8:40] It's not working.
[8:40] He doesn't want to do something else.
[8:42] He's glad to do it.
[8:43] He came in last night.
[8:45] I'm going to fix it.
[8:48] So it's just bad.
[8:49] We've got to fix it.
[8:50] For God's sake.
[8:51] He doesn't want to do it.
[8:53] We have probably seen 10 movies down below.
[8:55] That's right.
[8:55] Maybe 15.
[8:56] 15.
[8:56] Maybe last night.
[8:57] They shouldn't fix our doctors.
[9:10] That's right.
[9:11] We told McCormick one time that time.
[9:18] No, well, there are people who have.
[9:20] You know, I mean, and I think that not below brothers and sisters.
[9:27] I'm not saying have all the cousins.
[9:29] No, don't get that cousin thing.
[9:36] But you had Andy's wife, and you had Dawn.
[9:39] Oh, those people who passed from Connecticut, the one who took her shoes off.
[9:44] Well, sorry.
[9:46] They were nice people.
[9:48] But what I'm saying is, they're not the people you want around you very much.
[9:53] But we don't need to do that in here.
[9:55] We don't need to do that in here.
[9:57] No, no.
[9:57] We just do.
[9:58] I'm going to have more of them, but they're staying overnight.
[10:02] It's a pain in the neck.
[10:03] But they're riding, obviously, overnight sometimes.
[10:05] Yeah.
[10:06] Because that is sometimes a situation like that.
[10:10] But I feel the loss of wearing a boat.
[10:12] You know, this is a great, great honor.
[10:16] That would be marvelous.
[10:41] I'm moving tonight, you have stuff.
[10:45] Oh, sure.
[10:46] We're having to take care of it, so I really want the best of you here.
[10:53] Well, anyway, everybody's...
[10:54] This is Emily.
[10:54] We got it.
[11:10] There's a commission on highway safety, which has term appointments.
[11:15] One of them comes up, it's a three-year appointment.
[11:17] So they're going to .
[11:21] It's basically, it's prestige.
[11:23] It's very important, very important.
[11:26] I mean, my God, 55,000 people get killed on highways, and of course, he's very experienced in this.
[11:32] I told him that when they raised it with me, because they, you know, I told him we don't order something .
[11:41] I said, what about narcotics?
[11:42] But we don't have anything that's really needed.
[11:49] But coming back to this thing, I would certainly, certainly, certainly do it.
[11:56] But on the church service, Rose, I'm afraid it's too far down the line.
[12:02] I think, though, that your point is true, comes as well as it is.
[12:06] Then I think we should do an anti-glitz.
[12:08] I think we should do an anti-glitz for the administration, right?
[12:11] And call it the inaugural to those who participated in the... Then you have to have the... You have to have the various senators.
[12:21] Oh, absolutely.
[12:22] And the senators in Congress and the jackasses on the inaugural committee.
[12:35] Which isn't a bad idea, too.
[12:38] But I think you're right.
[12:39] I don't think you're going to make $300 out of that crowd.
[12:40] Because they're all in town.
[12:42] You can take $300 the next week.
[12:44] Because, you see, we've had people like Bunny Lasker ask.
[12:47] Because his bride has never been found.
[12:52] Ask one of the church groups that you are.
[12:57] Anna Chanel.
[12:59] Anna Chanel called last week.
[13:00] Be sure we get on that.
[13:03] Well...
[13:04] And I don't, you know, I just don't want, I just think that maybe if it's announced and it's a definite thing.
[13:12] And I had a letter from Janice and I'll send you.
[13:15] I don't know what you think of her.
[13:16] I think she's a terrible phony.
[13:19] And I know that she's...
[13:20] I don't know her that well.
[13:21] Well, she's in business, you know, with Jack Anderson.
[13:24] Jack Anderson?
[13:26] Oh, yes.
[13:26] She has several enterprise that they're involved in.
[13:31] I know that Louie...
[13:37] I do know from the papers.
[13:39] And I do know from the papers that she is, and it gave a name to the restaurant or something, that they are jointly together.
[13:48] And that old goat, you know, bought her apartment.
[13:53] Oh, they've been pals together for years.
[13:56] She's very happy.
[13:57] She's a topper.
[13:58] I don't believe in all of that shit.
[14:00] Well, I believe that I've seen them together before.
[14:05] And Tommy Corcoran, I know.
[14:07] And Tommy Corcoran on the board over there.
[14:10] He doesn't have a separate question.
[14:13] But she had sent a letter asking when she'd be appointed.
[14:18] And I didn't bother with it.
[14:19] And I don't know whether she did or didn't.
[14:22] She sent it down to my desk saying she'd be appointed to your special.
[14:26] ambassador to the party, because nobody else understands the party, even if it's already on the line.
[14:32] What I would do, yeah, I know, what I would do with that party is just sort of get some routine.
[14:42] Take off.
[14:45] You know, they never reach the site at the light of day.
[14:50] We all... No, no, there's no request.
[14:52] You just say that I want you to shoot it.
[15:15] He is, but did you notice how well he worded his letter?
[15:19] Yeah.
[15:19] I put that note up.
[15:21] I'll find out.
[15:22] So Jeannie Dixon is the one that sent that letter.
[15:30] I know.
[15:30] So that's the point.
[15:32] She didn't know about it.
[15:34] Do you hear it?
[15:35] Yeah.
[15:35] What?
[15:35] He left.
[15:43] If we ever could get him over, I said, she thinks he wants to be like a John Collins.
[15:48] Great.
[15:48] And he's right.
[15:49] Great.
[15:50] Great.
[15:51] Right.
[16:29] You have this number, so you have the data.
[16:32] Again, you told me to send it to Colson, but we always .
[16:58] Doctor, we can find that agent.
[17:01] No problem, I'll find him today.
[17:17] We have a record of the date of the letter and the date we found it.
[17:44] sitting there at the bottom.
[18:31] The, uh, the, the, uh, most of the pompous, uh, I suppose profound political commentators would, uh, scoff at any suggestions.
[19:24] raised the crown of a whole city.
[19:28] Very good.
[19:43] But that is exactly what the Reds do.
[20:05] And that's people in this highly partisan...
[21:25] We'll always hear your wails.
[21:51] You don't want to say yes.
[21:52] I'm sorry.
[21:53] I can't be with you all.
[21:55] Yeah.
[21:56] I, uh, yeah.
[21:57] Yes.
[21:58] I, uh, I appreciate the, uh, the advice.
[22:04] I appreciated your invitation to attend the game in person.
[22:08] Uh, unfortunately, uh, I don't have power, lack of power, that's,
[22:22] Unfortunately, Congress, at a time when I go, I happen to be concentrating on writing the inaugural address and preparing several messages to Congress.
[22:38] It's probably just as well
[23:23] Because his letter was very gracious, and wishing you the very best this year, and, you know.
[23:28] She probably does it because her brother played for the Redskins, Ernie Pinkerton.
[23:36] Do you know that?
[23:38] I don't know that.
[23:41] Ernie Pinkerton was the great blocking back in the University of Southern California in the early 30s.
[23:46] Probably the greatest blocking back in college football history.
[23:50] And then he
[23:57] Well, she knows him well, and before that letter came, she said that she had talked with him.
[24:05] But he is the friend.
[24:06] She said that the entire funeral was her.
[24:11] She feels that he feels he could be another comedy.
[24:15] Because he probably is disgusted with that other group.
[24:19] And look at the job he did on Bobby's day.
[24:21] I should say, when he
[24:28] Defending Baker, but do you know that by defending Baker, he kept LBJ out of that?
[24:32] And how he did it, I don't know.
[24:36] You know, as long as I didn't LBJ train Bobby Baker to do that.
[24:45] Well, I remember.
[24:47] And you know, you don't get that in a conversation.
[24:59] Came in with nothing.
[25:00] Well, no, I remember Frank telling me when they were doing a lot of work out in the vet, they used to use contractors just to get calls directly from Bobby Baker, from the man.
[25:12] And I know, you know, we know they trained Bobby because Bobby was just a boy when he was there.
[25:18] They kept a contract that they had to give them.
[25:20] Sometimes it was $85,000, sometimes it was cash.
[25:26] They knew that.
[25:30] When you're, uh, you might feel it as I can't entertain the very, uh, you might call me because you're inviting all of the bunch.
[25:39] Yeah.
[25:39] One reason being about him, too.
[25:41] He is such a good light to him around.
[25:54] I mean, I'm trying to do that review.
[25:57] I mean, I've got to have the officers, everybody else.
[26:01] Like, I'm going to get Roy Ash in the day.
[26:06] I saw him on the street yesterday.
[26:07] He and his wife will write it.
[26:09] Apparently, it's either he or his wife or Catholic or both.
[26:12] Do you know something?
[26:14] We've got three Catholics in the cabinet.
[26:17] I didn't know that.
[26:18] It's just Catholic.
[26:28] I don't know, but I saw him outside of church.
[26:30] Sorry, he was at 22.
[26:33] Normally, I wouldn't see him.
[26:35] Oh, was she?
[26:36] Yeah.
[26:38] But, you know, I thought, the only reason I said hello to him...
[26:43] I thought, well, gosh, you know, they've been hitting at him, and so I said, oh, Mr. Ash, you know, called him, and I said hello.
[26:52] You know, I didn't think he knew who I was, but he seemed so pleased with me.
[26:57] Sure, he's a good man.
[26:58] You know, what the heck, every company has its ups and downs and so forth.
[27:02] What the hell, they're living in a great company.
[27:04] They've had some ups and downs.
[27:05] Yeah.
[27:06] They've done a lot of promoting, but, uh...
[27:09] Okay, well...
[27:10] He'll, he'll, he'll just let it go.
[27:12] He's, he's good.
[27:13] And I think... You know, all that SEC, the one that Lasker wants is George Koch's son.
[27:53] He isn't a really big kid, is he?
[27:55] Well...
[27:55] I don't think so.
[27:58] No, he isn't on the big list, but George was our finance chair.
[28:02] And he's a hell of a guy.
[28:04] I know.
[28:04] I like to do it for him.
[28:08] I mean, I would do it for him, but it's not... Yeah.
[28:13] There we go.
[28:15] Yeah, the thing that I think that Julie talked to me on the way up to, when we went up to Alamo, that dedication...
[28:23] about what I thought about, you know, the plan for her to take over.
[28:27] I think it's the greatest thing.
[28:28] Well, you know, Pat was racing out about it yesterday, not about Julie taking over.
[28:33] He thought maybe Connie should stay on and handle the rest of it and so forth and so on.
[28:40] But I should deal with it.
[28:41] Connie stays on and Julie won't.
[28:43] Julie won't go to the job.
[28:44] I don't want
[28:52] because I don't want her to take a day-to-day jab into the National Committee.
[28:55] There are a couple people she could get, but she talked to me about that launch, fires from life.
[29:01] Right.
[29:03] Julie did, anyway.
[29:04] And then I talked to Bob, Bob Holtman came in and talked to me.
[29:07] Yeah.
[29:07] It was a girl who was either with the committee to re-elect or the National Committee.
[29:13] That's two or three, I don't know where my, two or three, oh, I don't know.
[29:19] No, no, I'm attracted
[29:24] beautifully in Florida.
[29:26] Who was that?
[29:27] Well, Bob was going to get a name, and I'm going to ask the name again.
[29:31] They ought to have that.
[29:32] The Jewelry just stayed on top of the whole thing.
[29:35] And Connie's around, frankly.
[29:37] Connie's too flip, just a bad image, and the only time it makes a break is when you put Jewelry in.
[29:42] I don't know.
[29:49] I don't know.
[29:54] Because, um...
[29:57] And there's no way Julie can't run if Connie's going to be the top dog over there.
[30:04] There's no way.
[30:08] And I think Julie can do a lot with her mother because she'll be able to talk with her.
[30:12] She'll be able to give her a call.
[30:14] Now, I thought Ann Armstrong came in here today to talk with me a little bit.
[30:18] And I told her to work with Julie and that they should both plan good things and Mrs. Nixon things.
[30:26] But you can't do that if you've got a carny in the middle.
[30:31] You can't do it.
[30:34] You've got two problems there, which you should be aware of.
[30:39] And her way, Lucy's quite difficult, too.
[30:42] I know.
[30:42] Lucy's very jealous of her priorities and every social thing.
[30:46] She's got to do it her own way and so forth.
[30:48] Well, she gets in the way and she should do it.
[30:50] She has.
[30:57] I said, you've got to be, you've got to get around them all.
[31:00] I gave her that job.
[31:01] I said, because we should use the White House more.
[31:05] And he overcame us.
[31:08] There's one third of the time here in Kentucky.
[31:12] What?
[31:13] Lucy's been at least a third of the last four years in Kentucky.
[31:16] Is she?
[31:17] Sure.
[31:18] She's very good at standing there and greeting people and smiling and looking pretty.
[31:25] Actually, the one that does the work is Rex.
[31:27] That's right.
[31:29] But the other thing is that Julie can't have any of them sniping at her when she takes them away.
[31:35] Julie is the right girl.
[31:36] She is pleasant.
[31:37] She knows what she's doing.
[31:38] She's organized.
[31:40] She does more work in a half a day than Pat's entire staff does in a week.
[31:46] Julie just said no nonsense.
[31:48] I think if we give a few of these, and I'll find out the name of that girl and then see if it's the same one that Bob had heard about.
[31:53] Bob didn't just say that.
[32:03] That's right.
[32:03] And the elephant isn't strong enough to handle it.
[32:07] We need somebody who can still be late and give me a hand.
[32:10] You'll be able to see the broker between here and the, you know, you don't need to have all these spikes between what's so-called western and eastern.
[32:19] Yeah.
[32:19] We're going to, that's going to work out well because we've got the seed now.
[32:22] It's going to do a lot of the schedules.
[32:24] Most of the schedule stuff, if they can't get along, they have to.
[32:29] So Julie will be able to get along there.
[32:31] And the other big advantage is that Julie can go upstairs and talk to her mother.
[32:36] The other girls couldn't.
[32:38] They can't.
[32:39] Pat doesn't want to see them.
[32:40] And you could get an answer.
[32:41] Well, if my name is Stuart, she won't answer the phone.
[32:45] No, I know.
[32:45] She'll say, I'll get an answer.
[32:47] And sometimes, she'll say, my name is Dallas.
[32:54] So I told Julie, I was absolutely elated.
[32:58] She asked me if she could come over and talk to me any time.
[33:01] I said, Julie, you can come to me any time.
[33:03] Julie, you've got to use her in a way that I don't want her to get hurt.
[33:07] But she's strong.
[33:09] I don't want her to get emotionally distraught because of her mother.
[33:14] Well, it won't be her mother when somebody, some cat down below.
[33:19] Now, Sigler will be very helpful.
[33:21] Sigler will, he's obviously been depressed
[33:27] I'm going to get the name of that girl, and I'll give it to Bob, because he was thinking about the other girl.
[33:32] See, the women's press are terribly hard to handle, because they're basically jealous and catty and so forth.
[33:38] The men's press are bad, too.
[33:40] The women's press should be there to write social money, and they want to write political
[33:53] very little credit for it, due to the fact that, well, take a look at, although she's not part of it, but take a look at, see, they call her Thomas.
[34:03] She goes there, she didn't give a damn about the ladies wearing it, whether it was a beautiful man or not, whether the toast was great, so she's only there for some reason.
[34:11] Trying to dig out, this will be it.
[34:13] It'll be.
[34:25] That's one thing they do a lot of.
[34:27] Our guests, all guests, when they come to the White House, they're very excited.
[34:30] First week, they're so excited.
[34:32] They're wondering.
[34:33] They come there, and some of them look at them, and they say things that they shouldn't.
[34:41] And it's in the papers.
[34:43] I don't think there's any way that Julie can run a party if you leave Connie behind her spot.
[35:01] Well, you see, Pat made a big mistake with telling Connie.
[35:04] I think Bob's already told Connie.
[35:05] He sure is.
[35:07] But Pat made a big mistake of letting Connie walk upstairs, and Connor ended up saying she was going to stay right away.
[35:14] Or anybody else even lettered her every name that was cold.
[35:18] Well, Connie's had her day.
[35:22] She said, follow up.
[35:23] Connie had made $12,500 before.
[35:26] Is that right?
[35:27] Frankly, that's right.
[35:28] That came in at $3,000.
[35:34] But the thing that is bad about this, it was not Mrs. Johnson who publicized what she did.
[35:47] It was Liz Carpenter.
[35:50] Pat Nixon has done much more.
[35:53] But this girl is not capable.
[35:56] She doesn't take the time to try to tell Pat Nixon this.
[36:01] You don't think so?
[36:02] I do not think so.
[36:03] She's terribly afflicted with the newspaper people.
[36:07] She doesn't talk on the phone to them.
[36:10] She didn't die at the convention.
[36:11] She let the other girls handle every press call.
[36:14] What did she do?
[36:15] I don't know.
[36:27] Well, the thing about Connie is that I think
[36:35] And see, when she puts her hat, she's different.
[36:38] Pat doesn't see this side of her.
[36:42] When she goes up to talk with her, she's gay.
[36:45] She's up.
[36:46] That's what Pat likes to do.
[36:47] Yeah, she is.
[36:47] That's right.
[36:49] She's a very... See, when it turns into being a little bit crude and split, then it's a different thing.
[36:56] But I don't think Julie can do the job with her down there because she's successfully...
[37:03] Really, not just by two of the others?
[37:05] Yeah, I mean, Julia should not have anything to do with the press.
[37:10] Oh, no.
[37:10] Well, let me find out right now the name of the other girl.
[37:13] She's got to do somebody right now to get the other girl.
[37:16] Well, Connie isn't gone yet, though, is she?
[37:18] Oh, I'm not sure, Connie.
[37:20] Okay.
[37:23] So I'll find the name of the girl, because he was going to look and see.
[37:27] He was going to check on the one he knew about, too.
[37:30] I don't know that William Sutter is our enemy.
[37:50] What are you going to do with the seal?
[37:54] You're not going to take the seal off the seal?
[38:00] Just the rock from the end?
[38:02] Yeah.
[38:16] And it's a terribly modern thing.
[38:20] And it is not easy.
[38:21] I mean, it takes away from the beauty of the ceiling.
[38:25] I forgot to get out of the planter.
[38:47] I don't care.
[38:51] Did you put your coffee picture?
[38:54] Yeah.
[38:55] Did you put your coffee picture, California coffee picture, in your office up there?
[38:59] Yeah.
[39:00] Does it look good?
[39:00] I bet it looks good, doesn't it?
[39:04] Yeah.
[39:06] That picture is so alive and pretty.
[39:10] Well, all the time.
[39:21] She's just got a great problem.
[39:23] I wasn't ever liking anything anybody else suggested.
[39:27] I know.
[39:29] Something good.
[39:32] So, I'm so pleased with her.
[39:37] That's why I think Julie and Ann Armstrong and several other people get her busy.
[39:41] And the only way to get her busy is to have Julie being able to get to her all the time.
[39:48] Yeah, and Julie will almost shame her and do anything.
[39:55] And I explained to Ann Armstrong, I said, this is a job where, I didn't say anything, you know, anything, no problem.
[40:05] I just said, I said, you know the job they did with Lady Bird and all these things, it's all prepared, everybody else did all these things.
[40:14] And I said, we haven't done enough of this with Mrs. Nixon and my information, and when we haven't, we haven't gotten the publicity.
[40:20] You'll never look at her.
[40:25] outside the city.
[40:27] And you see, that's what you have to work for.
[40:30] And she has to go to a place...
[40:42] I don't know if it can be saved, but I told her that I'm not the only one.
[40:46] I told her that I'm not the only one.
[40:50] I told her that I'm the only one.
[40:51] She said she's not organized and she needs an A.A. to leave.
[40:56] She'll get one.
[40:57] She'll hire one.
[40:59] Yeah.
[41:00] But she should hire.
[41:01] She should get a man.
[41:03] But she has already said she needs a man.
[41:07] So that it also doesn't look like a women's thing.
[41:10] Exactly.
[41:11] But even get the little school students interested, because this is the biggest thing happening.
[41:16] Get the thing moving from one end of this government country to the other, and make everybody proud of it.
[41:22] And we did great talk, and I suggested to you that we had a meeting.
[41:25] Some program ought to be put up by the foundation or something like that.
[41:36] Right.
[41:37] Essays.
[41:40] pictures.
[42:11] and you have to go through a whole realm.
[42:13] There should be another prize.
[42:15] There should be one for college-age students, one for high school, one for grade school.
[42:21] We have this competition throughout the country, and it should be prizes of substantial amounts of money.
[42:29] I think it should be, too.
[42:31] In my case, my thought is that Stephanie sends Pat Nixon out to award that prize.
[42:36] All right.
[42:37] Hold up the center aisle, or, unless you bring them in, but I think you get better press if you send it past the aisle.
[42:47] But anyway.
[42:48] I had a few of them now.
[42:50] I mean, all the messes I do, I didn't have a chance to mention them, except in passing.
[42:58] When I said that, I guess in passing, he said, my God, he said, I did that because I had to go to the back of the county.
[43:05] He said, what?
[43:09] And she lives so far, it's a big expense even taking her home and bringing her back and social things, because they live way out beyond earth.
[43:25] They bought this great big house and her husband's a, he spent it in real estate and all that kind of stuff.
[43:36] How many children do they have?
[43:37] They have no children.
[43:41] There's no problem with that.
[43:42] They don't have to worry about them.
[43:44] No problem.
[43:49] No, they're supposed to make a lot more out of it than they ever gave.
[43:54] Sure, sure.
[43:57] But I think, I'll go find out the name now.
[44:00] But I thought it was right.
[44:01] Once you go to Matt, and he had to, I'm sure because Pat had already told her she could stay.
[44:06] That's the point.
[44:08] I agree with you.
[44:09] I mean, I haven't done it that much.
[44:17] Well, and Julie once mentioned a buyer's girl, a buyer's buyer.
[44:23] I had an idea.
[44:24] You did?
[44:25] Yeah, I saw it.
[44:26] She's a big, friendly girl.
[44:27] And she's a hard worker.
[44:29] She's a hard worker, and it may be that she won't.
[44:32] She might not have it.
[44:33] She might not have it, but basically, we can look at the end and see how people got on with this here.
[44:52] Yes, ma'am.
[44:55] All right.
[44:58] You see, did you?
[44:59] Yes, I have.