{"conversationCode":"838-007","tapeNumber":838,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-838-007","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T13:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:04:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:36 AM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 838-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 838-7\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: Unknown after 8:36 and before 9:04 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown woman at an unknown time after 8:36 am.\n\n       Memoranda for H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n            -Instructions about dictation tapes\n                    -Copies\n                    -Clearing of tapes\n\nThe unknown woman left at an unknown time before 9:04 am.","filename":["838-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"838-006","nextCode":"838-008","transcript":[{"start":5.79,"end":12.97,"text":"Remember, I told you about memorandums, and I would sometimes take them home to the Jewelry District."},{"start":13.29,"end":16.53,"text":"They would want to come back, give them to him, and bring the tapes back."},{"start":17.97,"end":21.61,"text":"You've got the tapes you did before, and you bring them back."},{"start":23.84,"end":24.86,"text":"Well, you get those back."},{"start":25.48,"end":26.72,"text":"I want the tapes myself."},{"start":26.74,"end":27.84,"text":"See, that's my record."},{"start":28.12,"end":28.64,"text":"It's the tapes."},{"start":39.96,"end":41.02,"text":"I don't want a copy of that."},{"start":41.04,"end":41.82,"text":"No, I don't want a copy of that."},{"start":41.84,"end":43.72,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":43.74,"end":45.24,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":45.26,"end":46.9,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":46.94,"end":48.64,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":48.66,"end":50.51,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":50.73,"end":52.85,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":52.87,"end":54.85,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":54.87,"end":56.79,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":56.81,"end":58.39,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":58.41,"end":59.57,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":59.59,"end":61.83,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":61.85,"end":63.44,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":63.46,"end":66.56,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":66.58,"end":68,"text":"I don't want the tape back so that I can file it."},{"start":68.08,"end":68.9,"text":"I don't want the tape back so"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unknown woman to provide specific instructions regarding the handling of his personal dictation tapes and related memoranda. He emphasized the necessity of maintaining personal control over the original recordings, explicitly stating his desire to secure the tapes himself rather than having them copied or filed by others. The discussion focused on establishing a secure process for the custody and clearance of these sensitive records.","topics":["Dictation tapes","White House records","Presidential records","Information security","H.R. Haldeman"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:55:31.540Z"},"topicSlugs":["dictation-tapes","white-house-records","presidential-records","information-security","h-r-haldeman"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"838-007.mp3","bytes":1799551,"durationSec":74.85,"bitrate":192328,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/838-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/838-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/838/conversation-838-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}