{"conversationCode":"838-008","tapeNumber":838,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-838-008","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T13:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:04:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:36 AM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 838-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 838-8\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: Unknown after 8:36 and before 9:04 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time after 8:36 am.\n\n       Spiro T. Agnew\n              -Call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman about seeing the President\n                      -President’s discussion with Haldeman\n\n       President's schedule\n              -Haldeman\n              -William E. Timmons\n\f                                               -6-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:04 am.","filename":["838-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"838-007","nextCode":"838-009","transcript":[{"start":2.27,"end":4.13,"text":"uh yes uh but if he's"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule and address administrative matters. The discussion centered on managing access to the President, specifically regarding a request from Vice President Spiro Agnew to meet with Nixon following a prior communication with H.R. Haldeman. Nixon also reviewed logistical plans involving key staff members, including Haldeman and William E. Timmons.","topics":["Spiro T. Agnew","H.R. Haldeman","Presidential scheduling","White House administration","William E. Timmons"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:55:36.615Z"},"topicSlugs":["spiro-t-agnew","h-r-haldeman","presidential-scheduling","white-house-administration","william-e-timmons"],"audioDurationSec":35,"audioFiles":[{"file":"838-008.mp3","bytes":842216,"durationSec":34.96,"bitrate":192726,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:44.365Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/838-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/838-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/838/conversation-838-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}