{"conversationCode":"838-009","tapeNumber":838,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-838-009","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T13:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:04:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:36 AM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 838-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 838-9\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: Unknown after 8:36 and before 9:04 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time after 8:36 am.\n\n       President's schedule\n              -William E. Timmons\n              -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n              -Col. Richard T. Kennedy\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:04 am.","filename":["838-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"838-008","nextCode":"838-010","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":4.15,"text":"President, both attendees are in the same meeting."},{"start":4.17,"end":8.95,"text":"Would you like one of them to be on?"},{"start":10.55,"end":11.65,"text":"If not, it's very good."},{"start":11.71,"end":13.35,"text":"I'm usually very focused."},{"start":13.37,"end":21.03,"text":"Just around 9 o'clock."},{"start":25.54,"end":26.82,"text":"Ask Kennedy to drop in."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to review and adjust the President's morning schedule regarding upcoming appointments with William E. Timmons, H.R. Haldeman, and Colonel Richard T. Kennedy. Nixon evaluated the necessity of including certain attendees in his briefings to maintain focus. The discussion concluded with the President directing Bull to have Colonel Kennedy join him later that morning.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House operations","Staff management","Richard T. Kennedy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:55:42.496Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-operations","staff-management","richard-t-kennedy"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"838-009.mp3","bytes":808361,"durationSec":33.55,"bitrate":192772,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/838-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/838-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/838/conversation-838-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}