{"conversationCode":"838-013","tapeNumber":838,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-838-013","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:46:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"9:43 AM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:46 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:43 am and 9:46 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 838-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 838-13\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:43 and 9:46 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time after 9:43 am.\n\n       President's schedule\n              -William E. Timmons\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:46 am.","filename":["838-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"838-012","nextCode":"838-014","transcript":[{"start":1.96,"end":4.72,"text":"We were there meeting in Marianas earlier, 10 minutes first."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements regarding an upcoming meeting with William E. Timmons. The brief exchange focused on coordinating the President's daily schedule and ensuring the necessary preparations for his pending interaction with his assistant. No major policy decisions were reached during this short administrative consultation.","topics":["Presidential schedule","William E. Timmons","White House logistics","Administrative coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:56:04.828Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","william-e-timmons","white-house-logistics","administrative-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"838-013.mp3","bytes":266054,"durationSec":10.95,"bitrate":194436,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/838-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/838-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/838/conversation-838-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}