{"conversationCode":"843-003","tapeNumber":843,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-843-003","startDateTime":"1973-01-26T13:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-26T13:27:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:17 AM","endDate":"26-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:27 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 26, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:17 am and 8:27 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 843-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 843-3\n\nDate: January 26, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:17 am and 8:27 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                              -5-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 843-14 (cont’d)\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Bill signing ceremony\n                   -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger\n                   -[First name unknown] Cohen\n            -Photo session\n                   -Congressional leaders\n                   -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n            -William E. Timmons\n\nBull left at 8:27 am.","filename":["843-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"843-002","nextCode":"843-004","transcript":[{"start":1.3,"end":3.48,"text":"I will sign four pens rather than two serpents."},{"start":4.86,"end":13.48,"text":"What I'd like you to do is to deal check with one of the next to the top woman."},{"start":15.7,"end":25.72,"text":"Well, the top two civil servant types who should receive the commission."},{"start":25.74,"end":30.83,"text":"In other words, I think Cone is probably the one who's served for so many years and somebody else"},{"start":38.45,"end":42.18,"text":"purposes and people who really work in the boroughs like you, Scott."},{"start":42.2,"end":48.4,"text":"The other thing is that we will have a – the only picture we want to move today is that we've got to get a white one."},{"start":48.58,"end":51.16,"text":"Therefore, there will be no picture of the beginning of partisan leaders."},{"start":51.18,"end":52.06,"text":"We had one the other day."},{"start":52.18,"end":58.61,"text":"And no picture of the beginning of the Republican leaders, except when all they can fire ones who have stayed in heaven."},{"start":58.65,"end":61.41,"text":"So that's what we're on that plan."},{"start":61.55,"end":61.79,"text":"All right."},{"start":62.96,"end":63.66,"text":"to this person."},{"start":63.8,"end":64.7,"text":"Don't say it's a lie."},{"start":64.72,"end":65.87,"text":"We can go through these things."},{"start":65.89,"end":67.19,"text":"I'm going to go through them."},{"start":67.21,"end":68.14,"text":"I'm proud of you."},{"start":68.16,"end":69.6,"text":"I'm going to go through them."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the day's upcoming schedule, focusing on a bill signing ceremony involving Caspar Weinberger and photo opportunities. Nixon provided specific instructions regarding the recipients of ceremonial pens and limited the scope of media coverage for meetings with Congressional and Republican leaders. The conversation concluded with Nixon emphasizing his preference for maintaining a controlled and streamlined public relations strategy for the day.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Bill signing","Media relations","Public relations","Caspar Weinberger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:02:38.516Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","bill-signing","media-relations","public-relations","caspar-weinberger"],"audioDurationSec":76,"audioFiles":[{"file":"843-003.mp3","bytes":1834039,"durationSec":76.29,"bitrate":192314,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:45.308Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/843-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/843-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/843/conversation-843-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}