{"conversationCode":"843-007","tapeNumber":843,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-843-007","startDateTime":"1973-01-26T15:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-26T15:34:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Jan-1973","startTime":"10:11 AM","endDate":"26-Jan-1973","endTime":"10:34 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On January 26, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:11 am and 10:34 am. 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Price, Jr.\n                  -Taxes\n                  -Price\n                  -Democrats\n                         -William E. Timmons\n                  -Hugh Scott\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -National League of Families of American Prisoners of War [POWs] and Missing\n            In Action [MIA] in Southeast Asia\n\n       POW list\n\n       Ronald L. Ziegler\n            -Jerry W. Friedheim\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Length of meetings\n\n       1974 Budget\n\n       George H.W. Bush\n            -Rose Mary Woods\n            -Role\n\n       Congressional resolution\n            -Timmons\n\nThe President and H. R. Haldeman left at an unknown time before 10:34 am.","filename":["843-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"843-006","nextCode":"843-008","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":17.83,"text":"I thought they had... Is he recommending it?"},{"start":17.89,"end":27.59,"text":"Because the last I heard was that he said we should not allow her to request a call."},{"start":28.93,"end":29.66,"text":"And they were trying to..."},{"start":31.08,"end":32.08,"text":"I don't mind, Henry."},{"start":32.26,"end":33.44,"text":"Henry doesn't want you to see me."},{"start":33.48,"end":33.58,"text":"Oh."},{"start":33.6,"end":34.26,"text":"He doesn't?"},{"start":34.3,"end":36.36,"text":"Well, that was the last I got."},{"start":36.4,"end":42.16,"text":"Listen, if I got no dope letter, the idea being, uh, I'll just give you this piece of paper and have Price give off the letter."},{"start":42.19,"end":45.05,"text":"A letter should go to the, uh, the, uh, Republicans in the Congress."},{"start":45.61,"end":57.59,"text":"A letter should, uh, uh, get something like the battle of the election beginning."},{"start":61.69,"end":62.13,"text":"I, uh..."},{"start":93.9,"end":98.52,"text":"This budget is, as I stated in my remarks, this budget is a no-cash increase."},{"start":98.54,"end":121.25,"text":"If I open the line, would we not only make sure"},{"start":146.98,"end":149.7,"text":"I would appreciate your consideration."},{"start":179.39,"end":180.43,"text":"There's a copy."},{"start":180.83,"end":181.25,"text":"Any of them."},{"start":181.59,"end":186.01,"text":"Christ or somebody could get the damn letter."},{"start":186.06,"end":189.34,"text":"And I would send it for all if they could get a copy of the speech."},{"start":189.36,"end":198.54,"text":"Send it to all members of all Republican members of the House and all Republican members of the Senate with the first name in each one."},{"start":198.72,"end":205.52,"text":"And then also send it to"},{"start":222.79,"end":231.32,"text":"I'm going to ask you."},{"start":231.42,"end":232.2,"text":"Why don't people say that?"},{"start":243.99,"end":247.01,"text":"Bill could cover all of that, but he could just cover some of the budget classes, copy, print, speech, and the rest of the things."},{"start":247.03,"end":248.28,"text":"And send his budget messages to Congress."},{"start":249.31,"end":255.26,"text":"It's a serious thing."},{"start":255.88,"end":264.3,"text":"It just doesn't have to have everybody be next to me if I have any chance."},{"start":264.36,"end":266.46,"text":"But I think I should send a letter to the Republicans on the bill."},{"start":278.32,"end":281.73,"text":"I don't think the desire to submit to the Congress would be that much easier."},{"start":346.45,"end":351.88,"text":"They'll all be in the roast dog room, but only three will come in to the leadership."},{"start":356.72,"end":357.94,"text":"You can't take the whole bunch in."},{"start":358.02,"end":362.58,"text":"You just have to take care of the leadership."},{"start":385.62,"end":388.12,"text":"Well, they're at least learning that it's over."},{"start":388.44,"end":394.7,"text":"That's the main thing they need."},{"start":394.79,"end":395.69,"text":"So it's re-marrying every day."},{"start":395.71,"end":397.95,"text":"Well, it's been tougher until they, I don't know, until they know."},{"start":397.97,"end":400.93,"text":"But I guess, really, they'll know tomorrow."},{"start":400.95,"end":404.29,"text":"If they give us the list of prisoners."},{"start":407.83,"end":409.92,"text":"Anybody that's not on the list, I guess that's it."},{"start":477.59,"end":479.89,"text":"You're sure it's not on this file?"},{"start":479.91,"end":480.79,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":481.31,"end":482.15,"text":"I'm virtually sure, yeah."},{"start":482.19,"end":495.78,"text":"Ron said he talked to Freedon."},{"start":495.88,"end":498.4,"text":"There has been a problem with that."},{"start":498.43,"end":498.79,"text":"All right."},{"start":498.81,"end":500.73,"text":"It's set on email."},{"start":538.36,"end":540.54,"text":"to cut off the meetings."},{"start":540.94,"end":549.09,"text":"Basically, you don't have to go to the full court."},{"start":549.13,"end":553.71,"text":"You don't have to come here and kind of do what I've been saying in the meeting here."},{"start":553.73,"end":554.67,"text":"They don't give certs so much."},{"start":555.45,"end":556.19,"text":"You get a little bit shorter."},{"start":556.21,"end":556.67,"text":"I sure do."},{"start":556.69,"end":558.09,"text":"Everything gets a little bit shorter."},{"start":558.11,"end":558.75,"text":"And we have there's a box down."},{"start":558.77,"end":559.31,"text":"You just sit around."},{"start":559.35,"end":567.06,"text":"We all get a little bit more of an opportunity to get asked."},{"start":567.3,"end":567.74,"text":"It's basically..."},{"start":568.49,"end":569.61,"text":"I have a lot of disparity."},{"start":570.57,"end":571.51,"text":"Disparity, right?"},{"start":572.17,"end":574.74,"text":"That is, disparity comes out every two hours."},{"start":574.77,"end":575.1,"text":"That's it."},{"start":575.22,"end":576.6,"text":"But he didn't begin to walk out."},{"start":576.9,"end":581.08,"text":"I've got to go to a little committee meeting, and he'll choose me, Mr. President."},{"start":581.1,"end":583.32,"text":"He was the first one to say, well, let's all quit."},{"start":583.34,"end":583.72,"text":"Don't you agree?"},{"start":621.66,"end":622.68,"text":"That will not help her any good."},{"start":622.72,"end":627.56,"text":"The budget has to get softened for consumption."},{"start":627.58,"end":632.22,"text":"And my political pros, they can't get it, and that's not a problem."},{"start":632.26,"end":634.16,"text":"It's a great technology."},{"start":634.18,"end":634.34,"text":"Sample."},{"start":634.36,"end":635.78,"text":"Exartic."},{"start":635.83,"end":636.38,"text":"Yeah, exartic."},{"start":658.65,"end":659.41,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":659.43,"end":659.85,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":682.27,"end":683.31,"text":"A, he can handle it."},{"start":683.49,"end":690.58,"text":"B, he's got a staff up there he can put to work or he can kick out and get some good people on and get some of that taken care of."},{"start":693.28,"end":694.39,"text":"And it builds his position."},{"start":694.41,"end":696.69,"text":"It makes it meaningful to be the national chairman."},{"start":696.73,"end":699.35,"text":"I'm sure of it."},{"start":718.02,"end":727.57,"text":"They are going to have one of their own."},{"start":727.61,"end":735.69,"text":"Lots of herders, they are."},{"start":735.71,"end":735.97,"text":"What?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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