{"conversationCode":"845-008","tapeNumber":845,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-845-008","startDateTime":"1973-01-31T21:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-31T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"31-Jan-1973","startTime":"4:10 PM","endDate":"31-Jan-1973","endTime":"4:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Young, David R., Jr.; Bush, George H. W.; Timmons, William E.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Bull, Stephen B.; Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\"); Stevens, Ted;","description":"On January 31, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, David R. Young, Jr., George H. W. Bush, William E. Timmons, Thomas C. Korologos, Stephen B. Bull, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\") Atkins, and Ted Stevens met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:10 pm to 4:15 pm. 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Colson [?]\n            -Arrangements for Photographs\n            -Reception [?]\n\n       Alaskan congressional election\n            -Alaska State legislature\n            -The President’s assistance\n                  -Housing\n            -Young's background\n                  -State senatorial district\n                        -Fairbanks\n                        -Anchorage\n            -Campaign\n                  -“Bush vote”\n                        -Bush\n                  -Use of small planes\n                  -1972 election\n                        -The President’s victory\n                  -William A. Egan\n                  -Issues\n                        -Taxes\n                        -Prices\n                        -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]\n                              -“Bonanza for bureaucrats”\n                              -Poor\n\n       Photographs\n\nTed Stevens entered at an unknown time after 4:10 pm.\n\f                                              -11-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 845-8 (cont’d)\n\n       Greetings\n             -Young as candidate\n                  -Legislative work with Stevens\n\n       Photographic session\n\n       [General conversation]\n\n       Farewells\n            -Pipeline\n\nYoung, Stevens, Timmons and Korologos, and Bull left at 4:15 pm.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift.]\n\n       Politics\n              -William D. Ruckelshaus\n              -Press relations\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift.]\n*****************************************************************\n\nBush left at 4:15 pm.","filename":["845-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Young, David R., Jr.","Bush, George H. W.","Timmons, William E.","Korologos, Thomas C.","Bull, Stephen B.","Atkins, Oliver F. 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