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Start Date: 31-Jan-1973 4:17 PM

End Date: 31-Jan-1973 4:52 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

845-010a.mp3

845-010b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 31, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:17 pm to 4:52 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 845-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 845-10

Date: January 31, 1973
Time: 4:17 pm and 4:52 pm.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

       Press relations
             -Press conference
                    -William E. Timmons [?]
                    -Clark R. Mollenhoff [?]
                    -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                    -Location
                    -Press coverage
                    -Dan Rather
                    -Watergate
                          -Mollenhoff
                          -Written opinion
                          -Ernest A. Fitzgerald
                          -News summaries
                          -Robert C. Seamans, Jr.
                          -Executive priviledge
                          -Separation of powers

[See transcript for this portion of this conversation.]

             -Vietnam settlement
                   -The President’s statements
                   -Congressional relations
                        -Quotes
                              -Amnesty
                                     -Colson, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Patrick J. Buchanan
                                     -White House staff advice
                                        -13-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                     Conversation No. 845-10 (cont’d)

                              -Wire services
            -Henry A. Kissinger
                 -Briefing
                 -Peace with honor
            Wire services
                 -Kissinger's trip
                 -President's press conference
                 -Amnesty
                       -Peace Corps
                       -Criminal penalties

Press conference
      -Watergate
            -Donald H. Segretti
            -Dwight L. Chapin
            -Questions
      -Issues

Future press conferences
      -Frequency
      -Use of TV
            -Effect
            -Congressional relations
      -The President's conversation with H. R. Haldeman
            -Preparation
            -Kissinger,
            -Ehrlichman

      -Previous Presidents
      -John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson
      -John F. Kennedy
      -Executive privilege
            -Suggest response

      -Impoundment of funds question
      -Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Harry S. Truman
           -Taxes

Press relations
                                               -14-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                              Conversation No. 845-10 (cont’d)

             -Kissinger
                   -William H. Sullivan
                   -"Meet the Press"
                   -People's Republic of China [PRC]
                         -Vietnam
                   -Quote
                         -New York Times
                   -Colson's conversation with John B. Connally
                         -"Today Show" appearance
                   -Sullivan

             -Peter Lisagor’s story
                   -Connally’s 1976 Republican Presidential candidacy
                         -Jules Witcover
                         -William D. Ruckelshaus
                               -Meeting with The President
                                     -Clean Air
                               -Nicholas P. Thimmesch

John D. Ehrlichman entered at 4:32 pm.

       Politics
              -Press report on Connally/1976 Republican Presidential
               candidacy
                    -Ronald L. Ziegler
                          -Ruckelshaus
                    -Spiro T. Agnew
                          -Ruckelshaus
                                -Lisagor
                                -Witcover

Colson left at 4:33 pm.

       The President's meeting with Connally
            -Algeria
                  -Treasury Department
                        -Imports exception
                        -George P. Shultz
                  -Soviet Union
                        -Pipeline
                                      -15-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                        Conversation No. 845-10 (cont’d)

                   -Meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                   -Possible trip
                   -Kissinger

Watergate
     -Executive privilege
     -John W. Dean, III
     -Response for press
           -Congressional relations
           -Peter M. Flanigan
     -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
           -Letter to Frank E. {“Ted”) Moss
     -Mollenhoff
     -Ziegler
     -Bryce N. Harlow
     -C5A overruns
     -Civil Service Commission

     -Seamans
     -Fitzgerald

Ehrlichman's meeting with Connally
      -Richard M. Helms
           -Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran
           -Middle East
      -Research and development for energy
           -Budget
                 -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
           -Middle East oil prices

The President's meeting with Edward R. G. Heath
     -Iran
           -Pahlavi
           -Saudi Arabia
     -Great Britain
           -Oil companies

Connally
     -Anti-trust
           -Gulf and Western
                                        -16-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                        Conversation No. 845-10 (cont’d)

                   -Charles Bluhdorn
                   -A & P
                   -Justice Department
                          -Richard G. Kleindienst
                   -[First name not known] Kifer[?]
                   -Federal Trade Commission [FTC]
                          -[First name not known] Kilpatrick
            -Justice Department
       -Bluhdorn

Time
       -Dinner
             -Ehrlichman's schedule
       -Conduct
             -1973 inauguration
       -Cover
             -Marlon Brando
       -Hugh S. Sidey
             -John F. Osborne
       -William L. Safire
       -Compared to Newsweek
             -Relationship with Ehrlichman
             -Ehrlichman's schedule
             -Shultz
                   -Invitation

Executive priviledge
     -Roy L. Ash
     -Seamans
           -Cabinet officer
                  -Attorney General
     -Harlow
     -Mollenhoff
           -Fitzgerald
                  -Cost overruns
                  -Insubordination
     -Ziegler
     -Mollenhoff

Press relations
                                              -17-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                                Conversation No. 845-10 (cont’d)

             -Mollenhoff
                   -Lisagor
                   -Osborne
                   -Witcover
                   -Characterized
             -"CBS Morning Show"
             -Press conference
                   -Taxes
                         -Poor, elderly, Blacks
                         -Congress
                               -Special interests
                          -Program cuts

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting with Alaskans
                  -Donald Young
                  -Ted Stevens
                  -Welfare funds
                         -“Bonanza for bureaucrats”
                         -Poor

       U.S. News and World Report

Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 4:32 pm.

       Ehrlichman’s Schedule
             -FTC
       Ziegler
       The President’s schedule

Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 4:52 pm.

Ehrlichman left at 4:52 pm.