{"conversationCode":"848-002","tapeNumber":848,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-848-002","startDateTime":"1973-02-05T13:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-05T14:03:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Feb-1973","startTime":"8:20 AM","endDate":"5-Feb-1973","endTime":"9:03 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:20 am and 9:03 am. 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Haig, Jr.\n                       -Col. Nolde's last wish\n\f                                               -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 848-2 (cont’d)\n\n                            -Tour of Washington for family\n                            -Robert P. Griffin\n                     -Meeting with President\n                            -Location\n                            -Timing\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:03 am.","filename":["848-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"848-001","nextCode":"848-003","transcript":[{"start":0.27,"end":2.55,"text":"So in regards to the school, currently we have two options that exist."},{"start":3.33,"end":4.85,"text":"We have a final check with Bob Hall, who's currently in here."},{"start":4.89,"end":26.66,"text":"And he feels that either one really, either have the family come over here, or as a widow, if I'm sure, in 1912, either have them come over here, or the last minute you go over to the funeral, unannounced, to the burial services."},{"start":27.39,"end":28.59,"text":"It's over a part of the cemetery."},{"start":28.61,"end":34.22,"text":"It's called the Golden Chapel, which is the church at the edge of the cemetery."},{"start":34.24,"end":36.96,"text":"They have a funeral mass there."},{"start":37,"end":42.53,"text":"It's probably going to take 15 or 20 minutes."},{"start":42.55,"end":43.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":43.85,"end":47.09,"text":"And then it's a 10-minute procession down to the grave site."},{"start":47.15,"end":49.44,"text":"The burial site is the last one."},{"start":51.15,"end":56.91,"text":"You'll probably build them down and be pressed there because it's the last part of the time where it's a ceasefire."},{"start":56.95,"end":69.62,"text":"The other option would be just send their representative, General Haig, with a search letter and have him go over here to your office."},{"start":72.6,"end":80.17,"text":"One of the things Colonel Nolan wanted to do was, before he died, was to take the family to Washington and see all the various sites."},{"start":80.22,"end":81.2,"text":"We're arranging for that now quickly."},{"start":81.22,"end":92.75,"text":"Senator Griffin had him up at the Capitol to take care of the White House."},{"start":92.77,"end":96.33,"text":"One of the staff people really is, I think I have him here, Lawrence."},{"start":99.44,"end":105.5,"text":"Okay, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements for honoring the late Colonel William B. Nolde, the last American combat casualty of the Vietnam War. They weighed the options of the President personally attending the funeral service at Arlington National Cemetery versus sending General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. as a representative to meet the family at the White House. The discussion also addressed the administration's efforts to facilitate a Washington tour for the Nolde family, coordinated in part by Senator Robert P. Griffin.","topics":["William B. Nolde","Vietnam War","Funeral protocols","Alexander Haig","White House logistics","Robert P. 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