{"conversationCode":"848-003","tapeNumber":848,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-848-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-05T13:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-05T14:03:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Feb-1973","startTime":"8:20 AM","endDate":"5-Feb-1973","endTime":"9:03 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:20 am and 9:03 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 848-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 848-3\n\nDate: February 5, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:20 am and 9:03 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Meetings\n                     -Oval Office\n              -Photographs of meetings\n              - Ronald L. Ziegler\n                     -Availability\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:03 am.","filename":["848-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"848-002","nextCode":"848-004","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":2.84,"text":"We have a meeting at 3 o'clock in the Oval Office."},{"start":3.12,"end":8.84,"text":"All meetings of that bunch are always to be in the Oval Office."},{"start":9.82,"end":11.08,"text":"It's a mistake."},{"start":12.58,"end":14.14,"text":"No, I've never been to any Oval Office."},{"start":14.16,"end":15,"text":"I'm never here."},{"start":15.02,"end":17.69,"text":"And no pictures."},{"start":20.79,"end":22.11,"text":"Would you check to see if..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate the scheduling of upcoming meetings and establish strict protocols for Oval Office usage. Nixon mandated that specific group meetings be held in the Oval Office while simultaneously emphasizing that he did not want any photographs taken during these sessions. Additionally, the President inquired about the availability of Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to assist with these logistical arrangements.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Oval Office protocol","Photography policy","Ronald L. Ziegler","Administrative management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:08:45.933Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","oval-office-protocol","photography-policy","ronald-l-ziegler","administrative-management"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"848-003.mp3","bytes":874195,"durationSec":36.31,"bitrate":192624,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/848-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/848-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/848/conversation-848-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}