{"conversationCode":"848-012","tapeNumber":848,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-848-012","startDateTime":"1973-02-05T17:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-05T17:45:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:42 PM","endDate":"5-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.); White House photographer; Larzelere, Alexander R. (Cmdr.); Larzelere, Alexander R., Jr.; Larzelere, William; Larzelere, Paul; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, White House photographer, Cmdr. Alexander R. Larzelere, Alexander R. Larzelere, Jr., William Larzelere, Paul Larzelere, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:42 pm to 12:45 pm. 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Bull [?]; the White\nHouse photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Greetings\n              -Commander and Mrs. Larzelere\n\n       Larzelere's family\n              -Age of sons\n\f                                               -40-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 848-12 (cont’d)\n\n                        -William\n                        -Paul\n\n        Photographs\n\n        New job\n              -Congressional affairs office\n\n        Photographs\n\n        Gifts for sons\n                -Photographs\n                -Tie clasps\n\n        Ash trays\n\n        Cuff links\n\n        Larzelere's job performance\n               -The President’s appreciation\n\n        Coast Guard\n               -Army, Navy, Air Force\n               -Inaugural Parade\n                      -Marching\n\n        Meeting with Robert J. Brown\n              -Cmdr. Larzelere\n\nLarzelere, et al., left at 12:45 pm.\n\f                                             -41-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["848-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)","White House photographer","Larzelere, Alexander R. 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