{"conversationCode":"850-007","tapeNumber":850,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-850-007","startDateTime":"1973-02-06T16:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-06T16:34:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Feb-1973","startTime":"11:17 AM","endDate":"6-Feb-1973","endTime":"11:34 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On February 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:17 am and 11:34 am. 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Ehrlichman\n                              -Timing within briefing\n                              -Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford\n                              -Press relations\n                                      -Misunderstanding\n                                      -Ziegler’s forthcoming statement\n                                              -Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson administration\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n       Photograph sessions [?]\n             -Duration\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 11:34 am.","filename":["850-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"850-006","nextCode":"850-008","transcript":[{"start":0.65,"end":1.41,"text":"Can you see me now?"},{"start":1.43,"end":7.39,"text":"Can you see me now?"},{"start":7.41,"end":7.51,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":7.53,"end":10.23,"text":"Can you see me now?"},{"start":11.13,"end":13.63,"text":"Sure, we'll have to do a two-seater on David."},{"start":14.39,"end":16.66,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":18.08,"end":18.54,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":18.58,"end":19.06,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":19.16,"end":19.8,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":20.55,"end":23.66,"text":"Because this story came out exactly opposite of what you had in mind."},{"start":24.54,"end":32.28,"text":"The purpose of that was to point out that we were withholding less than was the tender average before."},{"start":32.5,"end":39.62,"text":"And I know the point was made, but apparently it was made too far down the briefing for them to get it."},{"start":39.86,"end":44.12,"text":"Well, it was made at the top of the briefing, and it threw out the point it was made."},{"start":45.54,"end":47.38,"text":"We face the problem, and they don't want to understand it."},{"start":47.4,"end":48.38,"text":"They don't want to understand it."},{"start":49.42,"end":53.33,"text":"And I talked to Scott Ford the other day, and we'll just keep it."},{"start":54.89,"end":62.7,"text":"But it's hard to drive it through the media block to get them to pick that up and to get them to write it, because they don't understand it."},{"start":64.58,"end":78.6,"text":"The fact is, it's a very simple statement, just to say that this is one half of the, uh, of the Coley-Johnson period, or something like that."},{"start":79.8,"end":81.38,"text":"Sir, we've done it."},{"start":81.44,"end":82.3,"text":"We'll do it again."},{"start":82.52,"end":88.34,"text":"These are the, these, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule with King Hussein of Jordan before consulting with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The discussion focused on Ziegler’s recent press briefing regarding presidential impoundment of budget funds and the administration's frustration with media coverage. Nixon and Ziegler strategized on how to better communicate the administration's fiscal policy to the press by drawing direct comparisons to the practices of previous administrations.","topics":["Budget impoundment","Press relations","King Hussein of Jordan","Presidential scheduling","Media coverage"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:11:29.721Z"},"topicSlugs":["budget-impoundment","press-relations","king-hussein-of-jordan","presidential-scheduling","media-coverage"],"audioDurationSec":94,"audioFiles":[{"file":"850-007.mp3","bytes":2256609,"durationSec":93.89,"bitrate":192270,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.850Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:47.115Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/850-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/850-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/850/conversation-850-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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