{"conversationCode":"851-002","tapeNumber":851,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-851-002","startDateTime":"1973-02-06T21:49:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-06T21:59:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Feb-1973","startTime":"4:49 PM","endDate":"6-Feb-1973","endTime":"4:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On February 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:49 pm and 4:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 851-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 851-2\n\nDate: February 6, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:49 pm and 4:59 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President dictated a letter to Jane Wyman.\n\n       Movies\n             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n             -Hollywood, Europe\n                    -Inferiority\n             -Older movies\n                    -Camp David\n                    -So Big\n                    -Edna Ferber\n                    -Quality\n\nThe President finished dictating at an unknown time before 4:59 pm.","filename":["851-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"851-001","nextCode":"851-003","transcript":[{"start":3.26,"end":6.82,"text":"Here, Jane."},{"start":11.09,"end":11.45,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":11.46,"end":12.59,"text":"No doubt."},{"start":12.61,"end":13.37,"text":"No doubt."},{"start":14.09,"end":14.25,"text":"No."},{"start":29.97,"end":31.89,"text":"movie fans, period."},{"start":31.91,"end":50.66,"text":"The difficulty we have at present is that so many of the movies coming out of Hollywood, not to mention those that come out of Italy, could that come out of Europe?"},{"start":195.26,"end":198.92,"text":"are so inferior that we just don't enjoy the very background."},{"start":200.74,"end":219.35,"text":"Constantly, we often, on weekends at Camp David, search through the catalogs of older movies and have lunch on them."},{"start":219.37,"end":219.69,"text":"Very good."},{"start":219.71,"end":221.83,"text":"We scratched the British last Saturday night."},{"start":223.37,"end":233.55,"text":"For the first time, on that Sunday night, for the first time, we saw you."},{"start":240.22,"end":242.5,"text":"And the burgers were so big."},{"start":242.52,"end":249.65,"text":"It was a superb performance."},{"start":257.29,"end":262.02,"text":"And I only wish that more movies of this quality remain today."},{"start":262.04,"end":262.96,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictates a personal letter to actress Jane Wyman to express his admiration for her performance in the film \"So Big.\" During the dictation, Nixon critiques the declining quality of contemporary Hollywood and European cinema, contrasting it with the superior artistry of older films. He notes that he and First Lady Pat Nixon frequently rely on older movie catalogs for entertainment during their weekends at Camp David.","topics":["Jane Wyman","Hollywood","Film quality","Camp David","Pat Nixon","Cultural criticism"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:12:14.189Z"},"topicSlugs":["jane-wyman","hollywood","film-quality","camp-david","pat-nixon","cultural-criticism"],"audioDurationSec":277,"audioFiles":[{"file":"851-002.mp3","bytes":6647038,"durationSec":276.84,"bitrate":192083,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/851-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/851-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/851/conversation-851-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}