{"conversationCode":"852-008","tapeNumber":852,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-852-008","startDateTime":"1973-02-07T17:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-07T17:22:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:21 PM","endDate":"7-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 7, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:22 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 852-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 852-8\n\nDate: February 7, 1973\nTime: 12:21 pm-12:22 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Upcoming meetings\n            -President’s schedule\n                   -Staff departures\n                   -Wallace B. Henley family\n                   -Presidential gifts\n                           -Ash trays\n                           -Children\n                                   -Tie clasps\n                           -Photographs\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:22 pm.","filename":["852-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"852-007","nextCode":"852-009","transcript":[{"start":0.67,"end":3.05,"text":"Uh, you know, we're very fast."},{"start":3.09,"end":4.93,"text":"We're all standing."},{"start":5.09,"end":6.79,"text":"Uh, two of them are meeting."},{"start":6.93,"end":20.75,"text":"Two of them are moving."},{"start":25.14,"end":26.54,"text":"That's good."},{"start":26.56,"end":26.82,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.86,"end":27.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.24,"end":27.34,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.38,"end":27.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.64,"end":27.92,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":31.91,"end":33.99,"text":"So have you given that high class degree?"},{"start":36.17,"end":38.97,"text":"Well, yes, I have."},{"start":38.99,"end":40.75,"text":"Well, actually, they're getting a photograph."},{"start":41.43,"end":42.44,"text":"Let's forget it."},{"start":42.66,"end":43.78,"text":"Just say we're not using that."},{"start":43.84,"end":45.28,"text":"Just say it the way I mean for us to try."},{"start":45.3,"end":46.18,"text":"All right."},{"start":46.2,"end":51.18,"text":"I'll start with the photographs."},{"start":51.2,"end":52.78,"text":"See, I forgot the photographs."},{"start":53.18,"end":55.44,"text":"Photographs is the real use of these people."},{"start":55.46,"end":58.23,"text":"Try them again."},{"start":59.97,"end":60.17,"text":"All right."},{"start":60.21,"end":61.49,"text":"We'll start with all the same shirts."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate upcoming logistical and scheduling details for the White House. The discussion focused on managing staff departures, arranging meetings with families, and organizing the distribution of presidential gifts such as ash trays and tie clasps. Nixon specifically instructed Bull to prioritize the processing of official photographs for visitors and staff.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Staff management","Presidential gifts","White House administration","Photography"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:13:16.387Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","staff-management","presidential-gifts","white-house-administration","photography"],"audioDurationSec":67,"audioFiles":[{"file":"852-008.mp3","bytes":1601412,"durationSec":66.59,"bitrate":192400,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/852-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/852-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/852/conversation-852-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}