{"conversationCode":"853-003","tapeNumber":853,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-853-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-08T14:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-08T14:54:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Feb-1973","startTime":"9:52 AM","endDate":"8-Feb-1973","endTime":"9:54 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Allin, Lyndon K.;","description":"On February 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Lyndon K. Allin met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:52 am to 9:54 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 853-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 853-3\n\nDate: February 8, 1973\nTime: 9:52 m-9:54 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Lyndon K. (\"Mort\") Allin.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-52]","filename":["853-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Allin, Lyndon K."],"prevCode":"853-002","nextCode":"853-004","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":0.56,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.92,"end":3.97,"text":"They told me to come here."},{"start":4.03,"end":5.07,"text":"God, you're so rough."},{"start":5.11,"end":5.97,"text":"You're 64 years old today."},{"start":5.99,"end":6.33,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":6.35,"end":7.01,"text":"Well, congratulations."},{"start":9.05,"end":17.12,"text":"And I don't see much of you, but I know you're supporting us today."},{"start":17.62,"end":21.22,"text":"And in terms of the media, nobody understands it better than you do."},{"start":23.64,"end":24,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":28.98,"end":30.24,"text":"Well, as I say, it's there."},{"start":30.26,"end":37.07,"text":"Sometimes, you know, we say, how can we do, what can we do to, as he will do, what can we do to do with me?"},{"start":37.13,"end":39.77,"text":"But I think we should always look at this."},{"start":39.93,"end":42.83,"text":"Now, what can they do to come our way?"},{"start":42.85,"end":43.39,"text":"Isn't that it?"},{"start":44.41,"end":45.63,"text":"They will be responsible."},{"start":50.17,"end":50.67,"text":"That's right."},{"start":55.03,"end":56.07,"text":"Yeah, I know, I know, you don't know."},{"start":56.99,"end":60.09,"text":"Why don't you get up, take off early today, and get a good, good rest."},{"start":62.65,"end":63.19,"text":"Great."},{"start":65.72,"end":66.82,"text":"Oh, great, great."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Lyndon K. Allin to offer birthday congratulations on Allin's 64th birthday. The brief discussion touched upon the administration's relationship with the media and the necessity of maintaining a strategic perspective on public perception. Nixon concluded the meeting by encouraging Allin to take the rest of the day off to celebrate.","topics":["Birthday","Media relations","Public perception","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:15:12.501Z"},"topicSlugs":["birthday","media-relations","public-perception","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":73,"audioFiles":[{"file":"853-003.mp3","bytes":1743723,"durationSec":72.53,"bitrate":192322,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/853-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/853-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/853/conversation-853-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}