{"conversationCode":"854-015","tapeNumber":854,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-854-015","startDateTime":"1973-02-13T14:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-13T14:48:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Feb-1973","startTime":"9:41 AM","endDate":"13-Feb-1973","endTime":"9:48 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:41 am and 9:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 854-15\n\nDate: February 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:41 am and 9:48 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n\f                                               -7-\n\n                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 854-15 (cont’d)\n\n              -Charles W. Colson\n                     -Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                     -Statement\n                     -Meeting with the President\n              -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]\n              executive committee meeting\n              -Radio speech by President\n                     -Legislative message\n                     -Announcement\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:48 am.","filename":["854-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"854-014","nextCode":"854-016","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":11.59,"text":"If, uh, Colson is not in a meeting with, uh, uh, he's, uh, holding on."},{"start":12.13,"end":13.19,"text":"Yeah, yeah, I understand."},{"start":25.5,"end":36.73,"text":"."},{"start":25.56,"end":36.73,"text":"The AFL-CIO executive committee meeting is a week from this Thursday, Friday, and Friday, not this week."},{"start":36.83,"end":53.58,"text":"And the question, relative to the radio station, the legislature, I mean, the message will be sent out on Thursday in the radio station."},{"start":54.9,"end":55.94,"text":"Today or tomorrow."},{"start":56.12,"end":58.49,"text":"The suggestion was made that we do it tomorrow."},{"start":58.63,"end":59.33,"text":"Announce it today."},{"start":59.35,"end":63.7,"text":"I don't know how much time we have to go with this."},{"start":63.74,"end":64.24,"text":"Well, I haven't yet."},{"start":64.26,"end":64.58,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":64.6,"end":66.56,"text":"Let me just use this one."},{"start":67.24,"end":67.8,"text":"All right."},{"start":68.24,"end":68.58,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":68.62,"end":69.53,"text":"Let me get a picture of it."},{"start":86.39,"end":88.59,"text":"We'll do it at 12 o'clock."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming schedule and administrative preparations. Their discussion centered on coordinating a meeting involving Charles Colson and H.R. Haldeman, as well as timing for a legislative message and a related radio announcement. They ultimately decided to schedule a briefing or announcement for 12:00 p.m.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Charles W. Colson","H.R. Haldeman","AFL-CIO","Legislative messaging","Radio address"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:18:01.288Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","charles-w-colson","h-r-haldeman","afl-cio","legislative-messaging","radio-address"],"audioDurationSec":96,"audioFiles":[{"file":"854-015.mp3","bytes":2311769,"durationSec":96.2,"bitrate":192246,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.849Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:48.249Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/854-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/854-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/854/conversation-854-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}