{"conversationCode":"854-020","tapeNumber":854,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-854-020","startDateTime":"1973-02-13T16:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-13T16:43:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Feb-1973","startTime":"11:42 AM","endDate":"13-Feb-1973","endTime":"11:43 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:42 am to 11:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 854-20\n\nDate: February 13, 1973\nTime: 11:42 am - 11:43 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Photograph\n              -Rose Garden\n                      -Weather\n              -Meeting with John A. Scali\n              -Ronald L. Ziegler\n              -Return to Oval Office\n\nBull and the President left at an unknown time before 11:43 am.","filename":["854-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"854-019","nextCode":"854-021","transcript":[{"start":1.16,"end":3.08,"text":"I think we'll have to get a different shot."},{"start":3.1,"end":4.88,"text":"We'll walk outside this time."},{"start":4.96,"end":5.82,"text":"It's already a pleasant day."},{"start":6.12,"end":6.8,"text":"All right."},{"start":6.84,"end":12.05,"text":"And, uh, basically, the ambassador and I will walk outside."},{"start":12.31,"end":14.11,"text":"You can tell, uh, uh, tell, uh, say we're going to shoot outside."},{"start":14.13,"end":18.91,"text":"We'll walk around here and come back and catch the thing."},{"start":18.95,"end":22.38,"text":"We'll come back and talk about it."},{"start":31.43,"end":31.52,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to coordinate logistics for a scheduled photo session with Ambassador John A. Scali. They discussed moving the shoot to the Rose Garden to take advantage of the pleasant weather. The President directed Bull to inform relevant staff of the change in venue before the participants proceeded with the walk and subsequent meeting.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Rose Garden","John A. Scali","Public relations","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:18:29.229Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","rose-garden","john-a-scali","public-relations","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":40,"audioFiles":[{"file":"854-020.mp3","bytes":964446,"durationSec":40.05,"bitrate":192632,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/854-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/854-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/854/conversation-854-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}