{"conversationCode":"854-028","tapeNumber":854,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-854-028","startDateTime":"1973-02-13T17:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-13T17:46:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:45 PM","endDate":"13-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:45 pm to 12:46 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 854-28\n\nDate: February 13, 1973\nTime: 12:45 pm - 12:46 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo\n              -William E. Timmons\n                      -Seminar at Camp David\n              -Donald H. Rumsfeld\n              -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n              -William P. Rogers\n\nBull left at 12:46 pm.","filename":["854-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"854-027","nextCode":"854-029","transcript":[{"start":16.69,"end":19.69,"text":"President Peavy has, uh, went on a visit with Biden."},{"start":19.71,"end":28.18,"text":"Peavy went out on a visit with Biden, held by, by, by, uh, uh, Tibbetts at Camp David conducting a seminar, probably."},{"start":30.5,"end":30.84,"text":"Seminar."},{"start":33.1,"end":33.46,"text":"Seminar."},{"start":34.68,"end":35,"text":"It's a subject."},{"start":35.02,"end":35.68,"text":"It's good."},{"start":35.7,"end":36.77,"text":"And, uh, that, uh, Rumsfeld's coming in."},{"start":37.42,"end":37.69,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":38.53,"end":39.23,"text":"What about Hague?"},{"start":39.79,"end":41.29,"text":"Hague, I just haven't gotten to."},{"start":41.31,"end":41.73,"text":"It's fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to review and finalize the President’s upcoming schedule. They discussed the attendance and logistics of various appointments, including meetings with Donald H. Rumsfeld, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and William P. Rogers. The conversation also touched upon a seminar being held at Camp David involving William E. Timmons and the presence of Senator Joe Biden.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House administration","Camp David","Donald H. Rumsfeld","Alexander M. Haig, Jr.","Joe Biden"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:19:15.066Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-administration","camp-david","donald-h-rumsfeld","alexander-haig","joe-biden"],"audioDurationSec":52,"audioFiles":[{"file":"854-028.mp3","bytes":1252210,"durationSec":52.04,"bitrate":192499,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/854-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/854-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/854/conversation-854-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}