{"conversationCode":"854-032","tapeNumber":854,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-854-032","startDateTime":"1973-02-13T17:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-13T17:55:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:46 PM","endDate":"13-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator;","description":"On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 12:55 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 854-32\n\nDate: February 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:46 pm and 12:55 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Donald H. Rumsfeld\n                      -Arrival\n              -William P. Rogers\n                      -telephone call\n                      -George P. Shultz\n                      -Trade legislation\n              -Rumsfeld\n                      -Departure\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and\n2:45 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 854-32A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-65]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Meeting with Rogers\n\f                                                -46-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 854-32 (cont’d)\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:55 pm.","filename":["854-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"854-031","nextCode":"854-033","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":2.05,"text":"Okay, the first one was in here yesterday."},{"start":2.49,"end":3.69,"text":"I'm not sure."},{"start":3.71,"end":7.17,"text":"I figured I could just call him back and see if he had any, uh... Oh, uh, dude, I haven't seen me."},{"start":7.19,"end":8.91,"text":"He's got straight legislation."},{"start":8.94,"end":10.72,"text":"I mean, he's still about to cover that subject."},{"start":11.86,"end":14.18,"text":"He might be doing this whole mess."},{"start":14.38,"end":19.02,"text":"Keep it in there."},{"start":19.52,"end":19.64,"text":"Okay."},{"start":19.68,"end":20.34,"text":"What, is he leaving?"},{"start":20.64,"end":22.16,"text":"He's gonna leave at, uh..."},{"start":22.18,"end":25.28,"text":"I guess it'd be a good time now."},{"start":29.97,"end":32.09,"text":"He knows he was invited to come in."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to review and coordinate the President's daily schedule and upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on the logistics regarding Donald Rumsfeld’s arrival and departure, as well as preparations for a telephone call with Secretary of State William P. Rogers concerning trade legislation and George P. Shultz. The conversation served primarily as an administrative briefing to manage the timing and sequence of these high-level meetings.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Donald Rumsfeld","William P. Rogers","Trade legislation","George P. Shultz","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:19:37.596Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","donald-rumsfeld","william-p-rogers","trade-legislation","george-p-shultz","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"854-032.mp3","bytes":920606,"durationSec":38.24,"bitrate":192595,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:48.254Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/854-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/854-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/854/conversation-854-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}