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It's just an idea.

It's an idea.

It's like, well, and you know, some of those letters are right here.

I didn't make that up.

I made the back page of the Postman.

It was on the radio.

I don't know.

The Washington Post.

I'm sorry.

It's our news.

But you know, the thing that everybody around here can think of is just

And then we're sorry.

It was just a...

Philippines and stand in a goddamn airport and shake hands with people when they come off the airplane, which would have been terrible.

Because then your reaction would have been, there's that goddamn guy handing it up and trying to get into the middle of the capitalizing on the DOWs.

Now you haven't capitalized at all.

You've done three gracious, well, you've done two gracious things on a very personal basis.

Nobody knows you.

Talk to the whites, they don't think.

Well, they do know that the guy talked to you.

Yeah.

They'll get out.

It's my share.

And let it happen.

The president is sending the thing.

And then, well, he's done three gracious things.

Because what you said at church, he said it before that, and then again at church to the press.

For Christ's sake, leave him alone.

They cut their time short at Clark Field because they don't need it.

They have a lot more time than they thought they had, more time for rehabilitation, getting ready to fly to California.

They cut that short, but they didn't ship them in early.

So that looks good.

And the guys are in such great shape, apparently.

Well, it's all part of the problem.

Well, that's what she said.

I mean, the stories are coming out.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I mean, I hosted some of the women over at DC.

They had, oh, yeah, they had wire marks on their arms and things like that.

That's when I posed one hell of a problem.

And they get back and are all over that room and start talking about themselves.

They made that and started saying how they were mistreated and all that sort of thing.

I thought, who's some of that money?

What do you want me to do?

I don't know.

Our dating program for the bar.

Yeah, I'm serious.

We've done too much of that stuff.

But we were putting it out a while back.

Of course, but we don't want to.

Two years ago, we were pumping it out by the garden.

I was on the road, staking his prison cells on the hill, and I thought he was pissed off we didn't send him out for a walk.

Why?

I hadn't thought of that.

He wanted to...

He wanted to do something.

Somebody ought to be in touch with him as a matter of fact, shouldn't they?

They were earlier.

Let me check, because they have been involved in some way in this thing.

He's more interested in welcoming the POWs as he is in trying to get the MIAs.

Well, just tell Scowcroft to keep him down.

He didn't follow his orders.

The New York Times guy

First, it's an old price you gotta go up, you know, and this meant the other thing that he said to me, because of the foreign imports, you know, the fact that, my point is, in the trillion dollar economy, the amount of foreign imports is perhaps, you know, we just hit the Tesla.

We made that point in August, didn't we?

And the other point, of course, that you made is that, and I said this, and I did, is that people say that all these prices are under overload in phase three.

So at least it occurred to me that George was going to hammer that.

Basically, it's the only thing in the office that you can say that people think that this is for the purpose of making their dollar a word less.

It was the times that...

I'm here to get started.

Have that in mind, okay?

I say it's a... almost...

It's where you need to calm your mind.

Yeah, I love that.

Absolutely.

I think George did a good job on that.

I think George did a good job.

But I mean, it's just...

I suppose it's a good...

That's exactly the way the plan is.

What is it?

and so forth.

I got to spend much time on this thing.

I think there were a couple of places just for a little editing, personal purposes.

I don't think it got that good a difference, but it got us enjoying it.

Here's the way that I said it, sir.

This year, I am presenting my State of the Union report in individual sections to permit more careful consideration of the challenges we face.

This year, I am presenting my State of the Union report not just in one speech, but in several messages on individual topics to permit more careful consideration.

Is that a good point, sir?

This is even more important, you know, the style and so forth.

They're talking about energy and so forth in person.

And here's again the situation where writers always figure they've got to have transitions.

You do not need transitions in speaking.

It says, turning to energy, a concern which has been dramatized by too short a distance.

That's their sentence.

Here's the way it should be written.

The energy crisis was dramatized by fuel shortage at this point.

We must face up to a hard fact.

We are not pursuing our energy to be produced.

I see their sentence.

If anybody is talking, does anybody say, I'm turning down to energy.

I'm concerned when it was dramatized by the fuel crisis.

That's the way people write about it.

They don't talk that way.

I had the hell of not getting through Ray's head, you know, because he's a writer.

But we did it.

And Henry never noticed that.

He even talks as he writes.

But that's where I went wrong.

Where the hell is the editor on things like that?

When you have a good sentence, you must never start a new body.

A bigger example, they reflect people's pride in themselves, their consideration for the community,

But your backyard is not the domain of the federal government.

Strike them.

Your backyard is not the domain of the federal government.

The moment you put a bottle in good sense, you will really lose a book.

It will never be good.

Your background is upset.

Just to hear.

It's something that.

Because they don't know how to write it.

I mean, they've got to sign it.

Yeah, but they, it doesn't, it's the language, you know, it's not the, they go through the stuff and say this is the flow of the line and so forth and so on and so forth.

It's got to be, it's got to be about the color of the line.

It's a, it's like a, take an eyesight for example, let me,

And that said it a hell of a lot better than saying we've got to, we need to, we need to protect the competitive position of the United States exporters of the world market, which we should also say, in my mind, you've got to get a fair debate or just here's where you, where you need.

I say this, I'm not afraid to be a greaser, you know.

I'm phrasing it.

So he is going through this.

All he did by going through that was the way he did it.

He simply picks up what Leo said, well, did he bring me the leads?

That isn't what I meant by that.

See?

Ziegler should examine it and see what the leads are.

But the point is, what I want to do is to have some guy examine it and say, hell, there's no language in here that's really quotable or legal.

You can't goose this up.

It's the speech doctors who will see it.

I don't want to depress these guys, you know, I discourage them.

You know, they get encouraged, and they work their butts off, and so forth.

It's a good job.

The other one's a good job.

But it was lit.

If they just ought to remember, you can have beautifully written prose and make good points.

Unless you get a quote of a line, a line, the speech will not be remembered.

It will not be remembered.

They've got to have a political...

You know, there are people that just do that kind of work, you know, there's some doctors...

How are you doing?

I don't want to send it back to many people, that's the other problem.

So you see it's really the editor's job, the editor's job.

The editor's job is not simply to say that it's well-written, but it's to break up the disbanded sentences, to put it in speech rather than writing form.

You need no transition sentences, and the translation might just start saying,

Now, what I did, I did that quote another few years.

Always try to think that you're always trying to get something

A BFW edition.

The BFW edition at the end, getting that, well, it's another reason for selling it.

China used to be very good.

You could have said, used to be very good.

America, the beautiful, that's what the stand thing's all about.

What struck my knee on it, and what triggered my mind, was their concluding prayer, and I had the word.

This is something to the effect that to make our country beautiful or something like that.

What does that trade mean?

In America, we have played in China.

And, of course, it's been done.

It's been quoted.

It says,

And some people remember and relate to each other for a time.

You briefly shared it to me.

And it happened as a speaker.

You know, the speaker always thinks like me.

It's a great way to explain to you.

It's just a great, always thinking chance of.

great exercise, good men.

I don't think you're going to get this from John.

You know, we've tried and so forth, but I think John is still really primarily a substance man.

He knows what it takes to be brave, but I don't think he'll go over to my host's work and say,

No, he's not a praise maker.

He is a pretty good partaker.

Yeah.

I mean, we don't...

The star is in a position where they've really got to, frankly, their own image on it.

I mean, he's certainly got to play in the Blacks.

He's a decent man.

He's going to play.

You know, what he did is... And I don't know.

Let's be quite candid.

I think the star is embarrassed, frankly, when we see what them and else do.

You know, we try to help them both, you know.

in terms of their own, keeping their own objectivity and so, you know, of their own independence.

That would be on his mind.

What does he want me to do it for?

For the purpose of affecting Noyes or for the purpose of conducting myself?

I know what it has to do is for the purpose of affecting Noyes.

For the purpose, on the basis that Noyes is a guy in the establishment who's trying to carry the next flag, who he thinks ought to, you know, ought to get to the well once just to...

built himself, not internally, not externally, because I don't think he produced the fact that he was here.

And to understand what he's changed from that letter quite a bit, and John turned him around quite a bit on some of those concerns.

Well, simply, he didn't understand, as was evidenced there, some of what we were doing.

I think we're doing too much and talking too much at this point.

None of the election results.

What the hell do the blacks want?

You know what they want?

Of course they want handouts.

They want you to just say you love them.

That's really what it gets down to.

That's all Kennedy ever said.

Say you love them.

Johnson, of course, had a big lot of money on him, but it was the fact that he was always showing that passion

We've done a hell of a lot of work.

But the question, the real problem is public demonstration of knowledge.

We no longer have to worry or be concerned about the older state, the blacks.

I don't know who they are.

I don't even see them.

I don't even see them as much.

Maybe it's the speech.

I don't know.

What should we do?

Out of sync, it doesn't fit.

You've got a lot of blacks that recognize you aren't going to get any credit for it.

But I don't think you should try to get credit beyond what you're getting.

You get some of the sensible ones in a lukewarm way.

But you also look at the difference.

You don't have any of them swinging either.

And maybe they will, but maybe they won't do it.

I don't know if you read fairly in the politics of promise versus the politics of doubt.

I'm not sure.

Nobody's really interested in me, because they've got to know what I'm saying.

Because they've got to finish it.

You've got to feel it.

As I said, it's...

And then he got out.

It wasn't just the assassination, it was the timing of this.

No failure, he got out.

He got out while he, while the promise, while the delivery hadn't caught up, before the delivery caught up with the promises.

The non-delivery.

So we start off on the basis of what might have been rather than what actually was.

Revisionist thing won't change a lot of that.

It will.

Slowly.

Yeah.

Five years.

What is the consequence of a jury subject?

Do you think a rating jury of either true or empty are important?

That's what I'm asking, yeah.

Sir, first of all, you can't raise him above, you can't raise him above anybody 100 times on anything.

I don't know why you would do that.

Are you sure?

Because I'm going to take a hell of a little.

You've got a hell of a lot.

That's why I say I'm not totally satisfied with the sailor operation in that respect.

I know they brought a lot of people.

Other than it's self-improvement, I can understand that.

I think that's what you have to add to you.

You've got to add the moors, the sapphires, the Texas prairies.

You see, prairie would be typical of what I would call a Kennedy's archive.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

And that's sort of what we do.

We do a little of that in art.

I don't think we're going to change our character.

I don't think we're going to change our story.

Perhaps it's a question of

Who do you consider to be the best person, and I understand that around in our shop, more at this point in the syntax of that field?

Christensen.

All right.

Yes, very much so.

I'm going to try and answer this one.

Thanks.

We have another question.

Well, it's pretty much in the damn thing.

It's where the best thing that can happen is a public reaction.

Thank you.

We are proud of our record in this field over the past four years, but a record is not something to stand on.

It's something to build on in that section.

Next paragraph.

I mean, that's...

the last paragraph there from Mark Martin.

Howdy.

How many issues with one hand are related to the target?

that are doing with the three okay

I'm going to do what I want.

I can do the two if you're ready.

What time is it?

2.15.

Do good, Katie.

It's a funny time.

Come on.

He's got more coming in three.

Take five.

Yes.

Well, I think you're a little winged, I don't know if that's the reason.

It's just more emergency.

You see?

Yeah, you are.

You really are.

And he basically bought a, frankly, I don't think, I keep coming back, but I don't think he auditioned on the man.

He was a recurring type of person who's, who's, uh, frankly, imagined him and, uh, had some ideas.

And like I said, he had children, probably a little younger, but more.

He's got, uh,

Now, John has a good sense of that sort of stuff.

Of course, you do it, John.

You both contribute to it.

Obviously.

Now, what else?

All right.

Intercept.

All right.

Yeah.

he said he asked if it would be of any interest to you sure I don't think I can go along with the standard recommendation or

I don't know if this is one of the things I want to read.

Look at a long-term schedule before I get into it.

And that is, they have two heifers of 55 couples each of the main contributors.

Let me say the same as with you.

They have a couple.

You cannot have a number of goals in this life.

For example, we have about 10 of the main contributors also already.

They're 10 or 12.

Maybe you get more than that.

You can't have a state pinner run and then have the same hitter, I mean, or the same, or two months later, or a month later, have their wife and so forth, hit her the same goddamn thing as your own parents.

It's an entertainment.

Well, maybe the thing you do is go with those that we aren't gonna get to the state pinners and only those.

That's it.

Let me put it this way, there's a second, in my view, in my view,

I don't think you can do it.

You just have a dinner for financial contributors.

Is that what you were suggesting?

Yeah.

Just so you can swoop it all up.

Well, if we are, you know, as you well know, it means that, well, we just can't take too long.

We've got all the dinners and evenings and so forth.

They've got to admit it.

Why don't you sit in there and look at each other?

Why don't you look at each other?

See, the evening at the White House thing, with the small dinners added, I think is probably better than just trying to put it this way.

I think the evening at the White House with small dinners added, which stands and others would give, are coming, people.

What do you think?

But this is part of your long term schedule.

I want you to know that I didn't read those.

Yeah, I think he was.

That's what it is.

I think he was.

I might consider that.

What I have to do with that, what I was going to suggest, which I think would be much better to give us an insight, because now I wouldn't give a goddamn thing.

I don't mean you, but I think what the jury is going to have to

And we'll have dinner at the White House.

And I said, now you're working with my hell of a lot more.

And at the end of the day, I get up and say thank you very much.

It's a great thing.

And then work the white thing on the evenings at the White House.

And the whites would come to eat grocery at the White House.

Even to the White House.

But few would make the dinners.

See?

I'm just talking.

How about getting some stagnant right away?

But, uh, we, uh, we, we, we want, we're heavy inspectors, so if one of our friends is going to leave, we want you to know that, uh, that we, uh, we want you to come to another event of the class with your wives, you know what I mean?

And they all know they're going to get, because all of them will get this bag, she'll get the white one, too.

See?

Then you use Schultz and Erickson, you know, sorry, and Henry.

They don't run Henry.

Well, they're Henry Williams.

He's good with the Bulls.

That's the big star team for them, you know.

Christ had been gone today.

heard Henry Kissinger and had dinner with the president.

And I just make a very brief statement.

I wouldn't have any entertainment for you.

I would have the Army Corps to sit before dessert.

And a brief statement where you thank them for their support.

You're glad they had a chance to get in and get a rundown of what we're up to.

But of necessity, it's going to be a period of time.

We didn't want to wait for that to happen.

I want you to know that we expect you, we want you to have social events, but there are only a few each year.

And we want you to come in early, so I don't want to wait for those.

I don't want to express my opinion.

I think the roundtables are better for that anyway.

I think the roundtables are better anyway.

A much better conversation.

I agree with what's on there.

A much more enjoyable thing.

People go, is any non-trafficking guy next to you?

You can listen to them.

Another thing I think I can do is that one.

We can go bigger with those if you want to.

If I put them in the eastern instead of the state down, that wasn't going to be the effect.

It's too far down the hall and I've got a cold.

I think it's too big.

Too big.

It needs to be a little more in the front.

Do you want to go through a picture of each size of such people?

I just might need something.

Yes, sir.

And then autograph them.

Have them receive them in the blue room.

And have the photographer there take an autographed picture out of here.

But then even no matter what they have to take.

And what I was thinking, too, that we could...

Oh, and I think what I would do there is to have a four-course dinner.

I think that's a pretty good one.

You know what I mean?

I have a first course.

So that the dinner takes a little longer that way.

Vision eats out.

Well, I have a first course.

I leave an empty chair and four different tables.

You see, now I don't have to sit and talk to just one table.

I all get my mind.

I don't get all the tables that way, but they all get the feeling that... How's it sound?

There you go.

Leave an empty chair.

See, you actually just disagree.

You have a program just to be in change with it.

I have a cabin officer, staff person at the table.

You just take his place and he moves.

All right, that's what we're going to do.

We're going to fill it up.

What we'll do is just say we're going to revolve this around.

You've had no particular...

I just wondered on that, if you were having a problem, you could do four.

I mean, that's... Are you trying more against the one you did?

No, thank you.

You moved around the tribe.

because everybody's equal, and sure, we're sitting, but I would like to see everybody, and what I've done here is that I've drawn up my way to exchange, and I moved four tables during the course of it, and we probably ought to have an administration type in each table.

We have to get a cabinet officer or a thing, and have all of them rotate, for that matter.

And that's why I say this too much.

I just think I should...

As I hope, somebody else will show up.

People who's on their pills and everything.

Have them low level and have counter-nauseas and other things that people you would rotate with should be basically not interesting people, not stars.

And anybody listening to that report, if I hadn't thought of them, you're absolutely right.

They should not be star-like or star-qualified.

They should be the lowest level, least interesting ones.

The big names.

In fact, maybe even have it be some of the businessmen.

No, because then the guy misses our chance to sit with you.

You've got to have, well, you've got to stand and be one of the tramps and push, push, cop off or something like that, whoever that type of thing is.

Now we have to take a turn getting that gun very soon and get the gun back to the station, so...

Yeah, I see that everybody's getting out of here.

We really should.

It's better to do them.

All right.

It comes off better.

Okay.

You know, ahead of time.

You can plan on it and make some more of an occasion.

So I think we ought to hold.

We have to go next year.

What's the best we can do?

What we had down was March 8th.

You got Goldie Mayer on the first.

The governor's on the 28th.

Mayor's the first.

I'd like to get it done, but I don't think that we... Wednesday the 7th to 1, Thursday the 8th.

We were holding that weekend the 9th.

Keep esteem.

That's a good hour dinner.

It's a good time for you not to be in town.

You don't know when that is, right?

I don't know when it is.

That's right.

I know.

It seems like everything's got to be held for that.

What we have on Henry's, we're holding that last week.

Oh.

We were figuring it's going out on the 23rd or something like that, too, on the 27th.

What's the patrol supposed to have on the 28th?

28th.

Right.

He's following the government there.

I don't see why you can't get those invitations.

Just 14.

I don't like the territory.

Why don't you do it for, say, the 27th?

Oh, it was the 28th, I see.

March.

That's two.

And May is the first.

I think two.

Two different already.

Are you going to do that this weekend?

Well, can we get it out of the slither somewhere?

That's a pretty good week to get them over with.

What about the press on the 28th?

Governance?

Well, do it in the

What about next week?

Like the 21st, right?

The 21st, it's early for the nighttime restaurants.

The next one should be out here in the room.

I think there should be another one.

But that time, maybe before going to the nighttime.

Okay, it's right in the waistline around.

Do that in the 21st then.

After Henry's back.

Now if I do that again...

Okay.

Unless we want to keep that one in the morning, too.

And I'll leave until after I go to California for that.

Right?

So we're not starting to be eating either way, either way.

Well, coming back, that sort of gets out.

Let's clear the week of the, let's knock the napkinters off.

I mean, the 6th and 7th.

The 6th and 7th.

Now, you've got to have several other things here.

What are you going to do about it?

Yeah, you know, you can't have an evening.

Yeah, but we should prefer...

the evening on the 17th.

You've got to do these two things.

Let's get them off one right after another.

It's not that long.

And then Tuesday and Wednesday.

I think you could do it.

And then I think you could do it on the 8th.

The D.F.

Doty congressional dinner is on the 8th.

I think you've got to get your heat, remember, right now.

So we've got to have invitations to these people to go to Congress for us.

Okay, now we're going to have to resign for the Congress, you know, for our friends.

and then you get the governor's ability to follow the week, the standards to follow the week, and then I don't see why you can't do that.

I really want to work out three things in a row.

You know, is it all that hard?

Because there's going to be the...

I don't know.

I don't see any harm in doing that.

Now what's your other, when do you plan to have a, when do you plan to have an evening?

The 17th.

Which is St. Patrick's Day and Mrs. Nixon's birthday.

An evening.

Okay, it just racks up a lot.

Yeah.

In some ways, that's better, except it's just obnoxious.

Whenever we do an evening on a Saturday, let's have a church the next day.

Let's have a, let's, let's figure it out.

Let's see, I want to floor it, I think.

Floor it.

I'll do the second, third, fourth, I'll do the fourth.

It's possible.

Let's do an evening on the 10th.

I was speaking in Florida that weekend, the 9th, 10th, and 11th.

Does anybody, people are suggesting I go there?

No, but I think, I don't know, I think no.

But it's awkward in a way if you're in town and you can't give an interview complete with it.

If you're here, why don't you just go to Camp A?

Well, there's no good in just going to Camp A.

That will allow us to get together with a lot of partners.

Yep.

Everybody, including the Democrats.

Yep.

And they've got that tradition to go out now for those steps.

That's what I have in mind.

So let's get that done.

Let's face it.

It doesn't do us any good to have some minister.

The fact that you have a minister coming from the church, I don't think it makes sense.

It's really not good for the MPS.

But you have to have a minister.

That's pretty good, you know.

Or you can.

Or the children in that room.

I have an old magnet in my hand.

I thought I'd check with that person.

Or they probably would.

Or I might have this long green schedule in my mind, because it would help me with therapy, speeches, press conferences.

The thought now is that a lot of these

I don't know.

There's no reason at all why you can't take a man.

Well, I don't think it makes any difference.

If only, you know, somebody had to be mistaken that they had some real secrets.

People have been told that, you know, a year ago it was live or not.

That's right.

People have been lying about secrets.

That's right.

I'm completely agree with that.

That's just something I read in the paper.

See you in the evening.