{"conversationCode":"857-009","tapeNumber":857,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-857-009","startDateTime":"1973-02-15T17:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-15T17:47:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:19 PM","endDate":"15-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:19 pm and 12:47 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 857-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 857-9\n\nDate: February 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:19 pm and 12:47 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman [?]\n               -Message [?]\n\n       Photographs\n             -William L. Duncan [?]\n             -Robert H. Taylor [?]\n\n       Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft\n              -Pentagon visit\n\n       Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:47 pm.\n\f                                            -46-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["857-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"857-008","nextCode":"857-010","transcript":[{"start":40.78,"end":53.93,"text":"Be sure that both Bill and Bob are in the picture."},{"start":54.01,"end":60.39,"text":"Do you want Red Skull to go up to the line with you?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate administrative and logistical arrangements regarding upcoming photography sessions and staff schedules. The discussion focused on ensuring specific staff members were included in photographs and managing travel logistics for General Brent Scowcroft’s visit to the Pentagon. Additionally, they briefly touched upon the scheduling of Ronald L. Ziegler and other personnel matters.","topics":["White House logistics","Photography","Personnel management","Brent Scowcroft","Ronald Ziegler"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:24:13.098Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","photography","personnel-management","brent-scowcroft","ronald-ziegler"],"audioDurationSec":74,"audioFiles":[{"file":"857-009.mp3","bytes":1775110,"durationSec":73.83,"bitrate":192354,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:48.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/857-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/857-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/857/conversation-857-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}