{"conversationCode":"859-037","tapeNumber":859,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-859-037","startDateTime":"1973-02-21T17:49:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-21T17:54:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:49 PM","endDate":"21-Feb-1973","endTime":"12:54 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:49 pm and 12:54 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 859-037 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 859-37\n\nDate: February 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:49 pm - 12:54 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -President's suggestion\n              -Note\n                      -Effectiveness\n              -Date for meeting\n                      -Freshmen Congressmen\n\n       William F. (“Billy”) Graham's return call\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:54 pm.","filename":["859-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"859-036","nextCode":"859-038","transcript":[{"start":1.57,"end":10.77,"text":"I was going to suggest that with regard to the"},{"start":30.98,"end":31.44,"text":"That's not, that's."},{"start":31.46,"end":35.6,"text":"We'll get the point across very effectively."},{"start":35.86,"end":38.86,"text":"Where is it?"},{"start":38.88,"end":39.26,"text":"Let's see."},{"start":39.34,"end":49.27,"text":"I'll guess you're trying to produce some sort of action."},{"start":49.79,"end":57.03,"text":"But Dave wasn't sure they wanted to have that."},{"start":57.41,"end":58.69,"text":"Or they didn't."},{"start":58.81,"end":59.97,"text":"But I bet it was Mike's choice."},{"start":59.99,"end":60.39,"text":"Maybe, I don't know."},{"start":61.52,"end":65.53,"text":"We were talking about the excuse that you were going to hate my name Tuesday, Claire."},{"start":66.25,"end":71.9,"text":"But it was, I think it was at a different concept."},{"start":71.92,"end":74.1,"text":"Dr. Graham, it's your telephone call while you're in the conference."},{"start":74.52,"end":76.46,"text":"He's back."},{"start":76.48,"end":76.66,"text":"Okay, sir."},{"start":77.16,"end":80.71,"text":"I'll get it when I get it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to review administrative arrangements, specifically discussing scheduling for an upcoming meeting with freshman Congressmen. The two deliberated on the most effective way to communicate specific political points during these sessions. Additionally, Bull informed the President that Billy Graham had returned his telephone call, which Nixon planned to address shortly.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Congressional relations","Billy Graham","White House administration","Communication strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:28:34.433Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","congressional-relations","billy-graham","white-house-administration","communication-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":86,"audioFiles":[{"file":"859-037.mp3","bytes":2074163,"durationSec":86.29,"bitrate":192289,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/859-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/859-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/859/conversation-859-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}