{"conversationCode":"860-002","tapeNumber":860,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-860-002","startDateTime":"1973-02-21T19:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-21T20:12:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Feb-1973","startTime":"2:13 PM","endDate":"21-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:13 pm and 3:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 860-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 860-2\n\nDate: February 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:13 pm and 3:12 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       First anniversary of trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]\n               -Pen\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Hafez Ismail\n              -Henry A. Kissinger\n              -Representative from Saudi Arabia\n\n       Bull’s calendar\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:12 pm.\n\f                                               -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["860-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"860-001","nextCode":"860-003","transcript":[{"start":0.71,"end":4.27,"text":"I'm sorry, I was present as you were."},{"start":4.29,"end":9.49,"text":"So in fact, I didn't put this in as being the first anniversary of the landing in China."},{"start":9.58,"end":12.74,"text":"Okay, I would just present with a silver and gold pen there."},{"start":13.5,"end":17.64,"text":"And then it would be kind of fun to have it in here for this week."},{"start":18.68,"end":19.12,"text":"All right."},{"start":19.2,"end":21.16,"text":"Who incidentally is this dish man?"},{"start":21.22,"end":21.66,"text":"Who's that?"},{"start":22.42,"end":23.48,"text":"That's the magician, sir."},{"start":23.52,"end":26.36,"text":"Are you sure it's that day or this afternoon?"},{"start":27.37,"end":33.31,"text":"Unless anything's changed, it's this Friday at 9.30, as I recall, sir."},{"start":33.55,"end":34.01,"text":"It says 11.30."},{"start":34.05,"end":35.82,"text":"11.30, well, it's 11 o'clock."},{"start":35.88,"end":42.92,"text":"You better check that out carefully."},{"start":42.98,"end":44.14,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":45.51,"end":47.41,"text":"Be sure to check that, because I know that's..."},{"start":48.97,"end":54.36,"text":"And whether it's that day or Saturday, I don't think that's correct."},{"start":55.24,"end":71.93,"text":"What about the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed administrative details concerning the first anniversary of the President’s historic trip to the People's Republic of China, including the presentation of a commemorative pen. They also discussed upcoming scheduling commitments, specifically verifying the timing of a meeting involving Hafez Ismail and Henry Kissinger. Nixon directed Bull to confirm the precise scheduling of these appointments to avoid any conflicts.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","People's Republic of China","Commemorative gifts","Hafez Ismail","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T01:28:58.723Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","peoples-republic-of-china","commemorative-gifts","hafez-ismail","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":78,"audioFiles":[{"file":"860-002.mp3","bytes":1866639,"durationSec":77.64,"bitrate":192337,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:49.670Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/860-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/860-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/860/conversation-860-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}