{"conversationCode":"861-008","tapeNumber":861,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-861-008","startDateTime":"1973-02-22T15:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-22T16:14:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Feb-1973","startTime":"10:06 AM","endDate":"22-Feb-1973","endTime":"11:14 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:06 am and 11:14 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 861-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 861-8\n\nDate: February 22, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:06 am and 11:14 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       John D. Ehrlichman\n              -Meeting\n                     -John W. Dean III\n                     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Camp David\n                      -Departure\n                      -Henry A. Kissinger\n              -George P. Shultz\n                      -Meeting\n                      -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n                      -Time\n              -Camp David\n\n       Radio speech\n              -Delivery\n                     -Time\n                     -Place\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:14 am.","filename":["861-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"861-007","nextCode":"861-009","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":3.33,"text":"Sir, he's involved in the team."},{"start":3.79,"end":9.98,"text":"He's meeting with all of them in the team."},{"start":11.6,"end":15.53,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":16.97,"end":18.73,"text":"Well, congrats as far as camp two."},{"start":19.47,"end":22.05,"text":"Well, last time we had to change that because Henry."},{"start":24.74,"end":32.75,"text":"We'll have a meeting here."},{"start":32.83,"end":34.43,"text":"The meeting will be here."},{"start":34.57,"end":37.89,"text":"And we'll have a video meeting."},{"start":37.93,"end":40.05,"text":"We'll meet at 2.30."},{"start":40.39,"end":41.43,"text":"2.30 video meeting."},{"start":42.47,"end":45.75,"text":"Then if you'd like to."},{"start":45.99,"end":47.89,"text":"I'll decide later."},{"start":54.48,"end":58.44,"text":"I probably want to go Saturday morning."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate upcoming scheduling logistics, including meetings involving John Ehrlichman, H.R. Haldeman, and John Dean. The discussion focused on arrangements for presidential travel to Camp David, a scheduled meeting with George Shultz in the Executive Office Building, and the planning of a radio address. The participants also discussed coordinating a video conference, with the President reserving final decisions on his departure timeline for later.","topics":["Presidential Schedule","Camp David","Administrative Coordination","George P. Shultz","John D. Ehrlichman","Radio Address"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T02:19:16.276Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","camp-david","administrative-coordination","george-p-shultz","john-d-ehrlichman","radio-address"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"861-008.mp3","bytes":1800188,"durationSec":74.88,"bitrate":192327,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/861-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/861-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/861/conversation-861-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}