Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 861-012
Date: Thursday, February 22, 1973 at 11:28 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/861-012

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[0:04] Good job.
[0:06] Yes, sir.
[0:07] We started at 1015 and ended right about 11.
[0:12] But it was a good story.
[0:18] The Flann and the Smith and the Downey release.
[0:22] These guys just continue to be baffled.
[0:23] The liaison office.
[0:25] Of course, they are the two numbers here.
[0:28] Oh, they see it.
[0:31] So in the questioning, it certainly came through like they did.
[0:35] I mean, it's difficult.
[0:36] He handled everything very well.
[0:42] He picked up your line.
[0:43] He hit it strongly.
[0:45] He hit it strongly.
[0:46] From the standpoint of these people have been
[0:58] in all their lives, either in jail or involved in some sort of conflict.
[1:02] What we are doing is attempting to bring them into some sort of a normal relationship.
[1:07] It's not aid to reconstruct them.
[1:09] It's a move to a peace.
[1:12] It's an investment in peace, Henry said.
[1:14] And that's the way it should be viewed.
[1:16] And he hit it in a very animal, good way.
[1:18] Yes, about Laos, about whether it's a conscious victory in Laos.
[1:22] Yeah, they did.
[1:26] All that .
[1:28] Well, I thought you would want to know that, for sure.
[1:38] But he had .
[1:39] No, I didn't raise any questions.
[1:44] Didn't ask about .
[1:45] They just said it was discussed.
[1:53] We talked about the whole area of the ballroom.
[1:55] They asked him about the fellow who was coming to meet then.
[1:59] He said he preferred not to talk about it.
[2:01] He preferred it.
[2:03] He said, I want to keep this confined to the cave and the .
[2:14] And I think that was a good part of what he said on the Haiti thing, which is, again, was I thought very strong .
[2:26] But the VP of the United States of China today announced that they had established official governmental liaison offices in Washington, D.K.
[2:35] to speed up normalization of relations between the two countries.
[2:40] I think they clearly understand that.
[2:48] Okay, as far as what else is—well, I'm sorry.
[2:55] to the White House first.
[2:56] Oh, yeah.
[2:57] So that's going pretty much out now.
[3:00] Sure.
[3:00] Which is what you wanted to do before we turned down the radar now.
[3:03] Yeah.
[3:04] I have a schedule proposed by the suggestion I want to see the radar when people just went to go through that four-minute specific investigation.
[3:13] Sure.
[3:13] Why do you want to?
[3:14] Well, we'll work it out on your schedule any time.
[3:17] Sure.
[3:17] That could be long, any time.
[3:24] I think they should know in advance, though, before they come in, that I will not be able to tell them.
[3:28] You say, look, he cannot come.
[3:30] But he wants to have you in.
[3:31] He wants to have you in.
[3:32] And he does.
[3:34] He's trying to work it out.
[3:38] So he does a couple of meetings here this year.
[3:40] That's not a White House response, but once the Lord's presence on both of them.
[3:46] Okay.
[3:46] The vice president will come to this one.
[3:50] But Rogers is going.
[3:51] I talked to Rogers this morning.
[3:53] I had asked you to call, and you took his advice.
[3:56] Yeah, I'm going in.
[3:57] And he said, what do you want me to do?
[3:59] And I said, I'm sure you can put it down right at the press conference.
[4:02] So you can tell Rocky that I'm trying to come next year.
[4:06] Yep.
[4:06] That is what I'll commit to.
[4:10] Obviously, you can virtually commit to that thing for next year.
[4:13] So I'll come next year, and I won't do the correspondence.
[4:19] I just want to go all four each year.
[4:21] First of all, it's going to be a beautiful gift.
[4:24] Right.
[4:24] That's it.
[4:26] That's it.
[4:26] An old inkwell, a silver shard of silver, and the gold and the earth.
[4:33] It's going back to the record of Jefferson's time.
[4:36] That was a Jefferson's quote on, no man can say that I want anything more than peace.
[4:41] That's a very, very nice quote.
[4:44] Good.
[4:45] very much hope that they can get Enzana to hand it to Sammy Davis, who got in for me at the White House.
[4:51] Oh, that's great, for not the first one, I don't know what happened.
[4:54] But I do, do very much.
[4:56] We've got people for this Sunday, Enzana.
[4:58] And I hope they're told.
[5:01] And, uh, Sammy Davis is great.
[5:03] And Sammy Davis will put on a hell of a show.
[5:05] He called me.
[5:06] Did I tell you on Thanksgiving?
[5:08] No.
[5:10] He called him and said, Ron, I just want you to know that I'm sitting here with my wife and children.
[5:15] And he said, I want you to know just how happy I am that the President of the United States is the President of the United States and how thankful I am and how thankful my friend is.
[5:25] I mean, he's a very, as he gets this, he's got to go on and keep it.
[5:28] I mean, it's black, brown, it's black.
[5:30] He's got to be able to show it.
[5:38] Well, that's very interesting.
[5:51] We're working on sunny and sheer.
[5:59] Yeah, I was going to say, any physical group that can get sunny and sheer is fine.
[6:07] I don't know if the Carpenters are that good.
[6:11] I mean, the Carpenters, I'm afraid they might lose that audience.
[6:16] The Carpenters have a beautiful sound, and they're well-liked, in terms of their records.
[6:20] They don't have to get up there before a crowd of 1,500 or down to .
[6:26] They're big on prime time television.
[6:29] They can use all the White House .
[7:13] Good.
[7:13] Now that ideally corresponds.
[7:17] I would prefer not to .
[7:19] And you will find out from folks what the awards are going to be.
[7:27] They have trouble with those awards, so it's that kind of award.
[7:35] And that's something always left with us.
[7:40] However we want it.
[7:41] So we'll work on that.
[7:45] We'll work on that.
[7:51] But if there is some kind of special award,
[7:56] You know what I mean?
[7:58] Well, there's American Scholarship Fund.
[8:00] Yeah.
[8:01] Which would be a good one for you to get there and get involved.
[8:06] I think there's one you can have.
[8:08] And I think that's the reason for that.
[8:15] And it's .
[8:16] Right.
[8:16] Good.
[8:16] OK, sir.
[8:17] Well, that's the thing.
[8:18] It always feels good.
[8:19] It does, yeah.
[8:20] It does.
[8:22] Tell the president, I appreciate this.
[8:23] I'm not sure if she could have not done it with Ted, but I don't know that.
[8:30] And Edgar wants to work it out, so he presents you the idea.
[8:35] Again, we're going there.
[8:36] It's really the only thing.
[8:39] They're fixing it so that they have paper clips and so forth.
[8:41] They're going to do a lot of that.
[8:42] Oh, that's what they'll do?
[8:43] Yes, they're going to do that.
[8:44] They're going to do that.
[8:46] They're going to do that.
[8:48] They're going to do that.
[8:53] The Cubs, the Cubs, the Cubs, right, and also the Yellow Pack.