{"conversationCode":"861-020","tapeNumber":861,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-861-020","startDateTime":"1973-02-22T18:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-22T18:12:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Feb-1973","startTime":"1:08 PM","endDate":"22-Feb-1973","endTime":"1:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:08 pm and 1:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 861-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 861-20\n\nDate: February 22, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:08 pm and 1:12 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -Breakfast\n              -The President's departure\n                      -Lobby\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.","filename":["861-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"861-019","nextCode":"861-021","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":3.72,"text":"You have to put on a schedule of 8.30 in the morning, 100, unless you got that good."},{"start":4.3,"end":8.3,"text":"And also, if you check the line, you'll see it's clear if I want to walk out that way."},{"start":8.32,"end":9.22,"text":"That's it."},{"start":9.24,"end":9.78,"text":"No, don't do it."},{"start":9.8,"end":10.82,"text":"I have to walk around this way."},{"start":10.88,"end":11.16,"text":"That's better."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate the logistical details of the President’s morning schedule and movement patterns within the White House. The conversation specifically addressed the timing of breakfast and the preferred route for the President’s departure through the building. Nixon finalized the decision to avoid a specific path, instructing Bull to adjust the departure protocol accordingly.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House logistics","Security protocols","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T05:32:29.321Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-logistics","security-protocols","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"861-020.mp3","bytes":412771,"durationSec":17.07,"bitrate":193486,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/861-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/861-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/861/conversation-861-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}