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Start Date: 23-Feb-1973 9:34 AM

End Date: 23-Feb-1973 10:05 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Ehrlichman, John D.Timmons, William E.

Recording Device: Oval Office

862-004.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, John D. Ehrlichman, and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:34 am to 10:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 862-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 862-4

Date: February 23, 1973
Time: 9:34 am - 10:05 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's meeting
              -John D. Ehrlichman [?]
              -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

       Ambassador

       Camp David
             -Weather
             -Transportation

       Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
             -Barbara Walters's show
                     -Taping

       Meeting on US economy
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan.-10)
                                                              Conversation No. 862-4 (cont’d)



John D. Ehrlichman entered at 9:35 am.

              -Kissinger’s attendance
              -George P. Shultz [?]
              -Location
                     -Barbara Walters's show
                             -Kissinger
                             -Time
                     -Alternatives
                     -Executive Office Building [EOB]
              -Amount of work
              -Time in traveling

William E. Timmons entered and Bull left at an unknown time after 9:35 am.

       Invitations
               -Evening at the White House, Worship service
               -Date
               -Republicans
                      -Reaction to invitation

       President's meeting with Richard G. Kleindienst

Timmons left at 9:38 am.

       President's talk with Howard H. Baker
              -Executive privilege

       Tax reform
              -Publicity
                     -President's statement
                     -Shultz
                     -Campaign promises
              -Tax credits
                     -Property tax
                     -Minimum tax
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan.-10)
                                                                Conversation No. 862-4 (cont’d)



              -Review of reform proposals
              -President’s statement
              -State of the Union

[A transcript of the following portion of the conversation may be found in RG 460, Box 58, pp.
1-17.]

[End transcribed portion]

       Howard H. Baker, Jr.

[Begin transcribed portion]

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:38 am during the transcribed portion.

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:05 am during the transcribed portion.

[End of transcribed portion]

       White House staff
             -William E. Timmons
             -Bryce N. Harlow

[Begin transcribed portion]

[End of transcribed portion]

       Veterans
              -Cutbacks
              -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
                     -Political sense

       Ehrlichman's role

       Earl L. Butz
               -Ancher Nelsen
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan.-10)
                                                              Conversation No. 862-4 (cont’d)



                      -Deal with Bob Poole
                      -Rural Electrification Administration [REA]
                             -Compromise
                             -Committee meeting
                                      -Timing

       Cultivation of administration's friends
              -Farmers
              -Veterans
              -Large contributors
                      -Tax breaks
              -Veterans and farmers

       Veterans
              -Legislation
                     -Political repercussions

       Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
              -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
                      -Commission members’ appointments
              -Elliot L. Richardson
              -Commission
                      -F. Edward Hebert
                      -Ehrlichman’s telephone call
                             -President’s role

       James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
             -Detroit local
                     -Presidency
             -Kleindienst
             -Parole

Ehrlichman left at 10:05 am.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan.-10)