{"conversationCode":"863-018","tapeNumber":863,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-863-018","startDateTime":"1973-02-23T22:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-26T13:58:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1973","startTime":"5:40 PM","endDate":"26-Feb-1973","endTime":"8:58 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"United States Secret Service agents;","description":"United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 5:40 pm on February 23, 1973 and 8:58 am on February 26, 1973. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 863-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 863-18\n\nDate: Unknown between February 23 and 26, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:40 pm, Feb. 23, and 8:58 am, Feb. 26, 1973\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nAn unknown person [Executive Protective Service (EPS)?] talked with an unknown man.\n\n[Conversation No. 863-18A]\n\n       Unknown man’s schedule\n            -Meeting\n\n       Chief\n\n       Switch\n\n       Permission [?]\n\n       Return telephone call\n              -Pizza\n\f                                           -18-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 863-18 (cont’d)\n\n[End telephone conversation]\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 5:40 pm, Feb. 23, 1973.\n\n       Greeting\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 8:58 am, Feb. 26, 1973.","filename":["863-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"863-017","nextCode":"863-019","transcript":[{"start":12.79,"end":13.41,"text":"Why would I want to do that?"},{"start":13.43,"end":14.31,"text":"Why would I want to stay in the airport?"},{"start":14.33,"end":14.57,"text":"Who's that?"},{"start":14.59,"end":15.01,"text":"I've never seen you."},{"start":15.03,"end":15.53,"text":"Get off the controls, then."},{"start":15.55,"end":15.95,"text":"Oh my God, it's funny."},{"start":44.36,"end":45.62,"text":"I don't know about you, but I don't know if you want to see much."},{"start":82.62,"end":82.86,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":82.88,"end":83.14,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":83.16,"end":83.42,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":83.44,"end":83.68,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":83.7,"end":83.96,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":83.98,"end":84.22,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":84.24,"end":84.48,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":84.5,"end":84.74,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":84.76,"end":85,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":115.23,"end":116.11,"text":"Yeah, he's smart as hell."},{"start":140.7,"end":143,"text":"Now, see, I had a rough description of this before coming here."},{"start":143.72,"end":145.66,"text":"When I started off, I know, G4, E6, and E7."},{"start":145.76,"end":153.11,"text":"Now, it's easy for you to say, you know, stay down here, but you don't have to sit there and talk to me."},{"start":153.13,"end":154.03,"text":"I'm sure I would."},{"start":154.67,"end":161.29,"text":"Like Thursday night, I wouldn't ask you for it."},{"start":161.31,"end":162.03,"text":"You wouldn't ask me for it."},{"start":162.05,"end":165.48,"text":"I'd ask you to come down here and talk to me."},{"start":166.14,"end":168.58,"text":"You know?"},{"start":170.16,"end":180.28,"text":"And tonight, it wasn't just you and the big kill center out of line at 8 o'clock."},{"start":180.3,"end":180.46,"text":"Right?"},{"start":180.48,"end":180.78,"text":"That's right."},{"start":180.8,"end":190.29,"text":"So you were just in such a regular line that, you know, there's some dirtiness in it when we're not in the kill center, of course, in the annual."},{"start":190.35,"end":191.13,"text":"And I see why it's not a con."},{"start":197.42,"end":198.2,"text":"It's bad for one week, you know."},{"start":198.24,"end":199.36,"text":"You can't see any of them twice."},{"start":199.42,"end":201.12,"text":"The next week, you're going to be guessing sex twice."},{"start":201.14,"end":202.18,"text":"Then cheating four times."},{"start":202.24,"end":202.98,"text":"You know, I can't cut it."},{"start":203,"end":205.78,"text":"I'm confident he's going to be right there with me this evening."},{"start":205.88,"end":207.77,"text":"He may have to go to senior season this evening."},{"start":207.87,"end":209.59,"text":"He may have to go up to the mission."},{"start":209.61,"end":210.81,"text":"I was going to move him up a couple of notches."},{"start":210.83,"end":210.91,"text":"See?"},{"start":210.95,"end":212.97,"text":"Just to get my feet this year, I thought he'd back to me."},{"start":227.47,"end":227.85,"text":"You ready?"},{"start":227.91,"end":227.85,"text":"5, 6, 7, 8"}],"audioDurationSec":235,"audioFiles":[{"file":"863-018.mp3","bytes":5643985,"durationSec":235.04,"bitrate":192102,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"This recording captures an interaction between United States Secret Service agents in the Oval Office, likely concerning security protocols or scheduling. The conversation touches upon an unknown man's schedule, including a meeting, and mentions \"Chief,\" \"Switch,\" and a \"Return telephone call\" related to pizza. While the specifics are unclear due to the fragmented nature of the transcript, the discussion appears to involve operational details and personnel movements within the protective detail.","topics":["Secret Service","Oval Office","Security","Scheduling","Personnel","Operational Details"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:22:32.300Z"},"findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:50.397Z","topicSlugs":["secret-service","oval-office","security","scheduling","personnel","operational-details"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/863-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/863-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/863/conversation-863-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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