{"conversationCode":"863-025","tapeNumber":863,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-863-025","startDateTime":"1973-02-23T22:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-26T13:58:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1973","startTime":"5:40 PM","endDate":"26-Feb-1973","endTime":"8:58 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"United States Secret Service agents;","description":"United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 5:40 pm on February 23, 1973 and 8:58 am on February 26, 1973. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 863-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 863-25\n\nDate: Unknown between February 23 and 26, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:40 pm, Feb. 23, 1973 and Feb. 26, 1973\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nTwo unknown men [Executive Protective Service (EPS)?] and an unknown woman met at an\n\f                                             -13-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 863-25 (cont’d)\n\nunknown time after 5:40 pm, Feb. 23, 1973.\n\n       Room\n               -Wire [?]\n               -Space\n               -Design\n\n       Space\n               -Plans\n               -Forms [?]\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 5:40 pm, Feb. 23, 1973 [?].\n\n       Departure\n              -Fun\n\nThe unknown men and woman left at an unknown time before 8:56 am, Feb. 26, 1973.","filename":["863-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"863-024","nextCode":"863-026","transcript":[{"start":0.43,"end":0.86,"text":"Go, Chad."},{"start":30.04,"end":30.61,"text":"Why is the stage so long time?"},{"start":30.64,"end":30.88,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":30.89,"end":31.14,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":31.18,"end":31.43,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":31.45,"end":31.7,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":31.72,"end":32,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":58.58,"end":59.16,"text":"I'm going to have to pee."},{"start":59.18,"end":60.14,"text":"I'm going to have to pee."},{"start":60.16,"end":60.72,"text":"I'm going to have to pee."},{"start":87.73,"end":88.01,"text":"The sound caps."},{"start":140.15,"end":140.39,"text":"Thank you."}],"audioDurationSec":156,"audioFiles":[{"file":"863-025.mp3","bytes":3741225,"durationSec":155.76,"bitrate":192153,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"This recording captures a meeting in the Oval Office involving United States Secret Service agents and potentially Executive Protective Service personnel. The discussion appears to focus on logistical and design aspects of an event or space, with mentions of \"wire,\" \"space,\" \"design,\" and \"plans.\" While the exact purpose and outcomes are unclear due to the fragmented nature of the transcript, the conversation touches upon the physical arrangement and potential modifications of a location.","topics":["Secret Service","Oval Office","Event planning","Space design","Logistics","Executive Protective Service"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:22:46.646Z"},"findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:50.397Z","topicSlugs":["secret-service","oval-office","event-planning","space-design","logistics","executive-protective-service"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/863-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/863-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/863/conversation-863-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}