{"conversationCode":"864-003","tapeNumber":864,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-864-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-27T20:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-27T20:55:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:46 PM","endDate":"27-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 3:55 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 864-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 864-3\n\nDate: February 27, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:46 pm and 3:55 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       John W. Dean, III\n             -Location\n             -Meeting with President\n             -President's meeting with Cardinal-designate Luigi Raimondi\n                    -Location\n                    -Arrival\n             -Dean meeting\n\f                                               -3-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 864-3 (cont’d)\n\n                      -Timing\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:55 pm.","filename":["864-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"864-002","nextCode":"864-004","transcript":[{"start":0.83,"end":4.89,"text":"President, would you look at this?"},{"start":4.96,"end":5.09,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":5.28,"end":6.2,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":6.48,"end":13.61,"text":"Well, I think I've got to see this Cardinal now, so it's better if I get through with him."},{"start":13.72,"end":14.03,"text":"Okay."},{"start":14.06,"end":16.63,"text":"He's out of the office right now."},{"start":16.65,"end":17.89,"text":"The Cardinal hasn't shown up yet."},{"start":19.45,"end":19.87,"text":"All right."}],"audioDurationSec":27,"audioFiles":[{"file":"864-003.mp3","bytes":644736,"durationSec":26.75,"bitrate":192842,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly discussed the upcoming meeting with Cardinal-designate Luigi Raimondi. Bull informed the President that the Cardinal had not yet arrived, prompting Nixon to decide to proceed with seeing him as soon as possible. The conversation was very short, with Bull departing before 3:55 pm.","topics":["Cardinal Raimondi","Presidential schedule","Stephen B. Bull","Oval Office meeting"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:22:59.547Z"},"findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:50.563Z","topicSlugs":["cardinal-raimondi","presidential-schedule","stephen-b-bull","oval-office-meeting"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/864-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/864-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/864/conversation-864-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}