{"conversationCode":"865-005","tapeNumber":865,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-865-005","startDateTime":"1973-02-28T13:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-28T13:42:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Feb-1973","startTime":"8:15 AM","endDate":"28-Feb-1973","endTime":"8:42 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On February 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:15 am and 8:42 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 865-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 865-5\n\nDate: February 28, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:15 am and 8:42 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n      President’s schedule\n             -Henry A. Kissinger\n             -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 8:42 am.","filename":["865-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"865-004","nextCode":"865-006","transcript":[{"start":0.82,"end":2.12,"text":"Sir, Dr. Gooden here."},{"start":2.24,"end":3.75,"text":"It's on the way in right now."},{"start":4.09,"end":5.78,"text":"General Scowcroft is available."}],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"865-005.mp3","bytes":335655,"durationSec":13.85,"bitrate":193833,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon briefly met with an unidentified man in the Oval Office. The primary purpose of the meeting appears to have been to discuss the President's schedule, specifically regarding upcoming meetings with Henry Kissinger and General Brent Scowcroft. The conversation was very brief, with the unknown visitor departing before 8:42 am.","topics":["President's schedule","Henry Kissinger","Brent Scowcroft","Oval Office meeting","White House staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:23:26.714Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidents-schedule","henry-kissinger","brent-scowcroft","oval-office-meeting","white-house-staff"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/865-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/865-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/865/conversation-865-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}