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Start Date: 28-Feb-1973 11:07 AM

End Date: 28-Feb-1973 11:52 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

865-022.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:07 am to 11:52 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 865-022 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 865-22

Date: February 28, 1973
Time: 11:07 am-11:52 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Kissinger meeting with Yitzhak Rabin and Golda Meir
              -Stonewalling, leaks
              -Shootdown of Libyan passenger airline
              -Negotiations for interim agreement
                     -Agreement on general principles
                             -Commitments
                     -US military aid
                             -Plans
                             -Leverage
                             -Congress
                             -Richard M. Helms
                                     -Israel’s Air Force
                                     -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                            Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


                     -Jordan, Egypt
                     -President’s viewpoint

       International Conference on Vietnam
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
               -North Vietnam
                      -Joint Military Commission
                              -Viet Cong representation

Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 11:07 am.

       President’s schedule
              -Press conference
                      -Timing
                             -Golda Meir visit

       International Conference on Vietnam
               -Economic Commission
                       -North Vietnam’s position on Prisoners of War [POWs]
                       -William H. Sullivan
                               -Unofficial US position
                                       -Commission, mines, US withdrawal
                       -Elliot L. Richardson
                               -Escalation
               -Press coverage
                       -News summary
                       -William P. Rogers
                       -Silvan Fox
               -North Vietnam
               -South Vietnam
                       -US aid
                       -Nguyen Van Thieu
                               -Ellsworth F. Bunker
                               -POWs
                               -North Vietnam
                               -Demonstrations
                               -Military operations
                                     -18-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                   Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


Cease-fire violations
       -North and South Vietnam
               -Number and magnitude
                      -Press coverage
       -South Vietnam’s Air Force
               -Training flights

President’s press conference

Kennedy’s 13 Mistakes by Malcolm Smith
      -Suppression of Kennedy family
      -Library of Congress
      -Bay of Pigs
             -Leaks by Chester Bowles
                    -State Department

President’s press conference
       -Press relations
               -Ziegler
       -Headlines and stories
               -Rogers, troop withdrawal, mining
       -President’s press conference
               -Delay
               -Questions
                       -US aid
                              -POW impasse
       -Richardson’s statement
       -Jerry W. Friedheim’s statement
               -Questions
                       -Withdrawal countdown
                       -POWs
               -Mine removal
                       -Delay
               -Rogers
               -Proposed answers and statements
       -Ziegler
               -North Vietnam
                       -Compliance
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                            Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


                             -POWs
               -POWs
                       -North Vietnam’s list
                               -Release
                       -US retaliation
                               -American public opinion
                               -Bombing
                               -Mining
                               -Bombing
                               -Dikes
                       -International Conference on Vietnam
               -               -Agreement deadline
                               -USSR and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                               -Thieu
                               -North Vietnam
                                       -Security
                                       -US commitment

       Press relations
               -Ziegler’s statement
                       -POWs
                       -North Vietnam’s compliance
                       -Civilian prisoners
                       -Cease-fire
                       -Mining
                       -Rogers

Ziegler left at 11:29 am.

       Press relations
               -Cease-fire
               -Critics
                       -President’s orders to Rogers
                       -Withdrawal stoppage
                       -Ziegler’s statements
                       -Congress

       Cease-fire negotiations
                                    -20-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                   Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


      -North and South Vietnam
             -Thieu
             -Intransigence
      -US response
             -Toughness

John F. Kennedy
       -Mistake
       -Rhetoric
               -Berlin
       -Meeting with Nikita S. Khrushchev in Vienna
               -Preparation
                       -Compared to President
               -Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr.
                       -Letter delivery
       -Indonesia
               -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
               -Achmed Sukarno
                       -Communist victory
               -Lt. Gen. T. N. J. Suharto
       -Brazil
               -Joao Goulart
       -Cuban Missile Crisis
               -USSR
               -Turkey, Italy, Cuba
               -Robert Kennedy, Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
               -Nerves
       -Bay of Pigs
               -Richard M. Bissell
               -Air cover
               -Landing site
                       -Joint Chief of Staff [JCS]
               -Press reaction
               -Popularity
       -Henry Fairlie’s book
               -Space program
                       -Moon landing
                                     -21-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                     Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


President’s popularity
       -Letters
       -War critics
               -Crisis
               -Thomas W. Braden [?]
               -McGeorge Bundy
                       -Opportunism
                       -Secretary of State
                       -Edward M (“Ted”) Kennedy
                              -Lyndon B. Johnson
                              -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
                                      -Vice Presidency
                              -Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
               -New York Times
               -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
       -Value of criticism
               -Free society

John F. Kennedy
       -Press coverage
       -Bay of Pigs
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower
               -President’s advice
       -Advisors
               -Public relations
               -Polls
                       -Johnson
       -Indecisiveness
       -Cuban Missile Crisis
               -Settlement
                       -US bases
               -Political effects
                       -Barry M. Goldwater
                               -1964 election
                       -Congressional elections
                       -Berlin crisis
               -Compared with President’s May 8, 1972 Vietnam action
               -Handling
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                             Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


                            -US bases in Greece, Turkey, and Italy
                            -Compared with President’s Cambodia speech
                     -Rhetoric compared with President
                            -Fairlie’s book
             -Popularity
             -Press coverage
                     -Hugh S. Sidey, Rowland Evans, Joseph W. Alsop, Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.

      Press relations
              -Pandering
              -Objectivity
              -Vietnam
                      -Mistakes
                      -Critics
                              -Siding with the enemy
              -Joseph A. Califano, Jr.
                      -Kissinger’s attendance at Rabin’s dinner for Gold Meir
                      -Rogers
                      -Liberals
                      -Congress
                              -Democrats
                                     -Aid to Vietnam
                      -Draft issue
                      -Aid to Vietnam

     Congress
           -Hugh Scott
                 -Richard B. Russell

     Youth attitudes toward President
            -Students compared with faculty


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     Possible Presidential candidates
            -Ted Kennedy
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                                    Conversation No. 865-22 (cont’d)


                      -Poll
                      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
               -Edmund S. Muskie
               -Hubert H. Humphrey
               -Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Kissinger’s view
                      -Trip to Vietnam
                      -Selfishness
               -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                      -John B. Connally
                      -Age
                              -Gen. Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
                              -Golda Meir
                      -Qualifications
               -Connally
                      -Business deals
                      -Armand Hammer
                      -Saudi Arabia
                              -President’s letter of introduction

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Ziegler entered at 11:50 am.

       International Conference on Vietnam
               -North Vietnam
                      -Official statement on POWs
                      -Rogers

Kissinger and Ziegler left at 11:52 am.
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)