{"conversationCode":"867-001","tapeNumber":867,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-867-001","startDateTime":"1973-03-02T16:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-02T16:05:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Mar-1973","startTime":"11:01 AM","endDate":"2-Mar-1973","endTime":"11:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:01 am to 11:05 am. 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Dean, III\n                  -President's statement on executive privilege\n            -President's press conference\n                  -Subject to cover\n                         -Dean\n                         -Donald H. Segretti\n                         -Maurice H. Stans\n                               -Questions from press\n                                     -Referral Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]\n                         -Segretti\n                               -Dean\n                               -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III's testimony\n                               -President's comments\n\nKissinger entered at 11:04 am.\n\n       Press conference\n             -Vietnam\n                   -Announcement of President Nguyen Van Thieu's forthcoming visit to the US\n\f                                            -2-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 867-1 (cont’d)\n\n                   -San Clemente\n             -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n                   -Hanoi\n                   -Release\n                         -US actions\n\nKissinger and Ziegler left.","filename":["867-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"866-023","nextCode":"867-002","transcript":[{"start":31.73,"end":36.83,"text":"In relation to the cartoon thing, William Cumber is on his way home."},{"start":36.85,"end":38.91,"text":"I'm sure he told you that."},{"start":38.97,"end":43.62,"text":"He's not going to negotiate at all."},{"start":44,"end":47.54,"text":"I think on that issue, I said, we're going to discuss it."},{"start":47.58,"end":56.35,"text":"And John Dean, I think you covered on this, John Dean requested you not mention a specific target time for the executive assembly statement that says that perhaps sometimes"},{"start":66.36,"end":66.96,"text":"Sometime next week."},{"start":67.62,"end":68.78,"text":"Sometime next week."},{"start":69.02,"end":70.28,"text":"That doesn't tie into lunch."},{"start":70.34,"end":74.72,"text":"No, I don't know."},{"start":74.75,"end":83.17,"text":"Actually, depending on where the question comes, sometime in the near future, perhaps next week, we'll give it a little more doubt."},{"start":84.25,"end":93.03,"text":"But anyway, let's see if there's any... Oh, and you covered it there, stuff around the questions about whether a game..."},{"start":99.59,"end":100.53,"text":"You've covered all of it."},{"start":100.57,"end":101.29,"text":"You've covered Segretti on it."},{"start":101.31,"end":101.41,"text":"Right."},{"start":101.43,"end":101.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":101.55,"end":105.23,"text":"And you have referred all the questions on Sands to the re-election committee."},{"start":105.47,"end":106.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":106.67,"end":107.66,"text":"That's what you said."},{"start":107.8,"end":108,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":108.02,"end":118.42,"text":"And, uh, but I just want to be sure that I don't say you've covered the questions if you haven't covered it."},{"start":118.44,"end":123.77,"text":"Claire, you didn't say I'm either covered it or it could be an election."},{"start":123.79,"end":124.01,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":124.03,"end":125.79,"text":"On Segretti and Dean, I'm not a Dean on the White House."},{"start":127.09,"end":127.91,"text":"Oh, showing the stuff."},{"start":130.56,"end":135.5,"text":"Ray did, I believe, in his testimony, and where Dean said he didn't."},{"start":135.53,"end":137.79,"text":"Well, I said I didn't."},{"start":139.63,"end":140.15,"text":"That's right."},{"start":140.31,"end":143.61,"text":"Dean has made it clear to Ray that he never did show it."},{"start":143.77,"end":146.35,"text":"I know, but it's a personal."},{"start":146.39,"end":150.01,"text":"They know that."},{"start":150.03,"end":151.63,"text":"They should know that."},{"start":151.99,"end":156.07,"text":"On those 34, yeah, on Christmas, I think I will start it."},{"start":167.91,"end":171.79,"text":"There is a chance that they're already in Hanoi, so I wouldn't be too belligerent about it."},{"start":171.85,"end":174,"text":"Why do you think I'll say that we're expected to get here?"},{"start":174.02,"end":174.96,"text":"Do you think so?"},{"start":175.04,"end":177.5,"text":"I don't think any other further comment at this time would be useful."}],"audioDurationSec":194,"audioFiles":[{"file":"867-001.mp3","bytes":1513472,"durationSec":193.84,"bitrate":62462,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, along with Ronald Ziegler and Henry Kissinger, discussed strategy for an upcoming press conference, focusing on how to address questions regarding Watergate, specifically John Dean's role, Donald Segretti, and Maurice Stans, with a plan to refer inquiries about the Committee to Re-elect the President to that organization. They also touched upon the Khartoum hostage incident and the upcoming visit of President Thieu, as well as the release of POWs.","topics":["Watergate","Press conference strategy","Executive privilege","John Dean","Donald Segretti","Maurice Stans","Khartoum hostage incident","POW release"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:24:34.980Z"},"findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:51.223Z","topicSlugs":["watergate","press-conference-strategy","executive-privilege","john-dean","donald-segretti","maurice-stans","khartoum-hostage-incident","pow-release"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/867-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/867-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/867/conversation-867-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}