{"conversationCode":"867-004","tapeNumber":867,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-867-004","startDateTime":"1973-03-02T16:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-02T16:44:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Mar-1973","startTime":"11:41 AM","endDate":"2-Mar-1973","endTime":"11:44 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:41 am and 11:44 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 867-4\n\nDate: March 2, 1973\nTime: Unknown after 11:41 am and 11:44 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       White House social affairs\n            -Invitations\n                  -Check\n            -John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Jerry H. Jones\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Introduction to President\n             -Photographs\n                    -Rose Mary Woods\n                         -Signature\n             -Gifts\n             -Photographs\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:44 am.","filename":["867-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"867-003","nextCode":"867-005","transcript":[{"start":0.29,"end":2.51,"text":"I wondered about some of these here."},{"start":2.55,"end":18.97,"text":"These are people who are going to be more than happy when we're having them."},{"start":19.09,"end":20.49,"text":"I'm sure you've checked these off, right?"},{"start":20.53,"end":20.91,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":21.03,"end":22.63,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":22.65,"end":26.95,"text":"It's just... Now, this is all... Well, people have been invited in."},{"start":27.23,"end":27.65,"text":"Some have..."},{"start":28.94,"end":32.38,"text":"This is part of the city already, or whatever, and it moves away."},{"start":33.77,"end":40.16,"text":"He's the one who changed the Jones earlier than me, the way they keep using it."},{"start":40.18,"end":42.16,"text":"A couple of them are limited for one reason or another."},{"start":68.73,"end":89.44,"text":"When they were invited, they were told specifically that a number of people were coming in and that the president had invited me in."},{"start":89.48,"end":97.78,"text":"I don't think he's given anything, Mr. President."},{"start":99.42,"end":101,"text":"Yeah, that's right."},{"start":101.49,"end":103.15,"text":"We can't do it for everybody."},{"start":103.59,"end":109.42,"text":"Well, Margaret, there's a lot more people."},{"start":109.44,"end":110.16,"text":"I guess you're right."},{"start":110.18,"end":114.84,"text":"You know, we should, whenever we get a photograph, we don't really need to do another campaign."},{"start":114.9,"end":116.02,"text":"Right, sir."}],"audioDurationSec":121,"audioFiles":[{"file":"867-004.mp3","bytes":933888,"durationSec":121.19,"bitrate":61649,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly discussed upcoming White House social affairs, specifically reviewing invitations and guest lists. They also touched upon the President's schedule, including arrangements for photographs and introductions. The conversation appears to be a quick check-in on administrative details related to presidential events and personnel.","topics":["White House social affairs","Invitations","President's schedule","Photographs","Guest lists","Administrative details"],"generatedAt":"2026-09-18T02:24:41.265Z"},"transcriptGapSeconds":37,"transcriptGapShare":0.31,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","topicSlugs":["white-house-social-affairs","invitations","presidents-schedule","photographs","guest-lists","administrative-details"],"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/867-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/867-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/867/conversation-867-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}