{"conversationCode":"867-009","tapeNumber":867,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-867-009","startDateTime":"1973-03-02T16:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-02T17:16:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Mar-1973","startTime":"11:51 AM","endDate":"2-Mar-1973","endTime":"12:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Weinberger, Rebecca Jane Dalton; Cavanaugh, James H.; Yu, Peter; Ross, Richard; Wilson, Kemmons; Moore, William W.; Segal, Jack P.;","description":"On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, Rebecca Jane Dalton Weinberger, James H. Cavanaugh, Peter Yu, Richard Ross, Kemmons Wilson, William W. Moore, and Jack P. Segal met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 12:16 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n******************************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n        Schedule\n             -Camp David\n                 -Astronauts\n             -Sammy Davis, Jr.\n             -Camp David\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n--\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 4s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n--\n\n                -President’s writing\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n******************************************************************************\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n******************************************************************************\n\f                                           -12-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 867-9 (cont’d)\n\nDr. Paul Yu, Richard Ross, Kemmons Wilson, William W. Moore, Dr. Jack P. Segal, Mrs.\nCaspar W. Weinberger, James Cavanaugh, and members of the press entered at 12:16 pm.\n\n       Switching something on [?]\n\n       Dr. James Cavanaugh [?] regrets\n\n       Introductions\n             -Yu\n                   -American Heart Association [AHA]\n             -Ross\n\n[Photograph session]\n\n               -Arrangements\n\n       “Heart of the Year” award presentation\n            -President as recipient\n\n       AHA’s work\n           -Dwight D. Eisenhower and Lyndon B. Johnson\n                 -Heart attacks\n                 -Presidency\n                       -Stress\n           -Mrs. Nixon\n                 -Advocacy\n\n       Gifts\n               -Cuff links\n\n       Heart attack\n             -Survival\n             -Recovery\n\nDr. Yu et al. left at 12:25 pm.\n\f                                                     -13-\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                             Conversation No. 867-9 (cont’d)\n\n******************************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n--\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 17s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n--\n\n        Award\n            -Preservation\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nMrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 12:30 pm.","filename":["867-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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(\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Weinberger, Rebecca Jane Dalton","Cavanaugh, James H.","Yu, Peter","Ross, Richard","Wilson, Kemmons","Moore, William W.","Segal, Jack P."],"prevCode":"867-008","nextCode":"867-010","transcript":[{"start":0.58,"end":5.56,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":33.28,"end":36.12,"text":"I think they're on board with the flagons right now."},{"start":75.97,"end":80.61,"text":"Yeah, that should be all."},{"start":80.75,"end":83.26,"text":"All right."},{"start":98.63,"end":99.21,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":99.61,"end":102.23,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":137.7,"end":142.04,"text":"Get a little closer."},{"start":202.6,"end":203.06,"text":"What is your action now?"},{"start":236.57,"end":236.75,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":357.33,"end":357.44,"text":"Bye."},{"start":391.37,"end":402.89,"text":"And so, on behalf of the President Johnson, the President, and all the other members of the country, I just mention this here."},{"start":402.91,"end":412.49,"text":"She has made all over the country, that's why there is a very strong demonstration of this in all countries."},{"start":412.53,"end":413.05,"text":"So I give her a chance."},{"start":425.88,"end":426.7,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":426.76,"end":429.82,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":451.11,"end":452.79,"text":"Okay, second floor."},{"start":455.77,"end":467.9,"text":"Look at how high you're going to be."},{"start":480.13,"end":485.99,"text":"Well, we, uh, we want to give you each a little memento."},{"start":486.03,"end":494.19,"text":"This is the presidential card."},{"start":495.11,"end":498.27,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":514.18,"end":514.92,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":514.94,"end":516.14,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":516.38,"end":518.22,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":519.34,"end":522.46,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":522.8,"end":525.71,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":525.99,"end":533.41,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":533.47,"end":538.63,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":539.38,"end":545.89,"text":"so people would go on the shelf and die sooner."},{"start":546.97,"end":557.07,"text":"Now, people realize you can go through, you can recover, and live a very useful life."},{"start":557.11,"end":564.75,"text":"If anybody can be president after a heart attack, you can go home and that's fine."},{"start":564.84,"end":565.12,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":575.98,"end":577.55,"text":"And you don't die."},{"start":587.66,"end":589.34,"text":"Shall I just take a quick rest?"},{"start":597.58,"end":601.18,"text":"If you would, if they wanted something on it, they could cover the whole thing."},{"start":601.24,"end":601.98,"text":"No, no, no, no."},{"start":602.06,"end":604.05,"text":"They're trying to get it to Congress, I guess."},{"start":604.45,"end":607.65,"text":"Well, no, but they use this for everything, and it's very bad."},{"start":607.67,"end":609.41,"text":"What they should use is a little piece of paper."},{"start":610.51,"end":611.45,"text":"I'll tend to it."},{"start":611.97,"end":612.47,"text":"Fine."},{"start":612.51,"end":612.69,"text":"See?"}],"audioDurationSec":618,"audioFiles":[{"file":"867-009.mp3","bytes":5103616,"durationSec":618.17,"bitrate":66047,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.696Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his wife Pat met with representatives from the American Heart Association, including Dr. Paul Yu, Richard Ross, and James Cavanaugh, for a \"Heart of the Year\" award presentation. The discussion focused on the AHA's work, the impact of heart attacks on presidents like Eisenhower and Johnson, and Mrs. Nixon's advocacy. The meeting included a photograph session and the presentation of gifts, emphasizing the possibility of recovery and a useful life after a heart attack.","topics":["American Heart Association","Heart attack","Presidential health","Award presentation","Public health advocacy","Recovery","Dwight D. Eisenhower","Lyndon B. 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