{"conversationCode":"867-026","tapeNumber":867,"conversationNumber":26,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-867-026","startDateTime":"1973-03-02T21:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-02T22:05:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Mar-1973","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"2-Mar-1973","endTime":"5:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Jackson, Samuel; Jackson, Samuel (Mrs.);","description":"On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Samuel Jackson, and Mrs. Samuel Jackson met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm. 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Bull and the White House\nphotographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Jackson's new job\n            -Lawyer\n            -Opportunities\n            -Partnership\n\n       Jackson’s experience in the administration\n\n       Jackson's job performance with administration\n\f                                           -41-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                       (rev. June-2010)\n                                                            Conversation No. 867-26 (cont’d)\n\n             -President's appreciation\n\nMr. and Mrs. Jackson left.","filename":["867-026.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Jackson, Samuel","Jackson, Samuel (Mrs.)"],"prevCode":"867-025","nextCode":"867-027","transcript":[{"start":4.4,"end":5.64,"text":"This is Daniel Jackson."},{"start":7.82,"end":9.82,"text":"Well, see, you're going to be a lawyer again."},{"start":10.11,"end":10.53,"text":"That's right."},{"start":10.55,"end":10.73,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":10.85,"end":11.99,"text":"That's a fine firm."},{"start":12.67,"end":13.17,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":13.23,"end":14.03,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":14.13,"end":15.69,"text":"One of the big ones here."},{"start":15.73,"end":16.19,"text":"How is it?"},{"start":16.93,"end":17.63,"text":"Nice to see you again."},{"start":17.67,"end":19.77,"text":"It really is a tremendous opportunity."},{"start":21.15,"end":22.67,"text":"Tell me, are you going to be a lawyer?"},{"start":22.69,"end":24.2,"text":"I mean, a partner."},{"start":24.23,"end":24.75,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":24.84,"end":24.95,"text":"Good."},{"start":25.14,"end":25.27,"text":"Good."},{"start":25.98,"end":26.14,"text":"Good."},{"start":26.68,"end":27.24,"text":"I'm already here."},{"start":27.28,"end":27.92,"text":"You guys are doing good."},{"start":34.86,"end":50.32,"text":"I might tell you that both Max Red and Bruce Red"},{"start":54.74,"end":55.68,"text":"were very helpful to me."},{"start":56.06,"end":58.42,"text":"Max was one of the real seniors in the front."},{"start":58.8,"end":59.1,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":59.16,"end":59.74,"text":"Well, he did run."},{"start":60.21,"end":60.69,"text":"He did run, right."},{"start":60.71,"end":70.82,"text":"And he hit a lot of the corners, and it was very helpful having him there and having worked with him and having worked with Bruce."},{"start":70.84,"end":71.08,"text":"Yeah, you."},{"start":71.8,"end":72.9,"text":"So that was very useful."},{"start":72.96,"end":74.34,"text":"Thank you, Jason."},{"start":75.85,"end":90.14,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, you deserve a lot of your years and so forth, but it's not a question."},{"start":90.24,"end":94.5,"text":"I'm going to say you should do it now."},{"start":94.52,"end":95.14,"text":"Well, that's right."},{"start":95.16,"end":98.77,"text":"I was on for a year and a half."},{"start":99.55,"end":100.01,"text":"You're right."},{"start":100.03,"end":100.47,"text":"I think you're right."},{"start":100.59,"end":100.99,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":102.23,"end":104.34,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Samuel Jackson and his wife to discuss Jackson’s transition from his role in the administration back into private legal practice. The President expressed his appreciation for Jackson’s service and performance while reflecting on the professional opportunities awaiting him at a prestigious law firm. The conversation concluded with Nixon affirming that Jackson’s tenure in the administration provided him with valuable experience for his upcoming partnership.","topics":["Samuel Jackson","Administration personnel","Legal career transition","Professional development","White House staffing"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T22:41:42.630Z"},"topicSlugs":["samuel-jackson","administration-personnel","legal-career-transition","professional-development","white-house-staffing"],"audioDurationSec":133,"audioFiles":[{"file":"867-026.mp3","bytes":1034240,"durationSec":133.13,"bitrate":62147,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.697Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/867-026.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/867-026","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/867/conversation-867-026","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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