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Conversation 867-029

TapeTape 867StartFriday, March 2, 1973 at 4:08 PMEndFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:05 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Villarreal, Carlos C.;  Villarreal, Carlos C. (Mrs.)Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Carlos C. Villarreal, and Mrs. Carlos C. Villarreal met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-029 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 867-29

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Mr. and Mrs. Carlos C. Villarreal; Stephen B. Bull and the White House
photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Introductions
       Photographs

       New job
            -Jerry H. Jones
            -Alternative posts
                  -Assistant Secretary of the Navy
                  -Commissioner of the Postal Rate Commission
                  -Agency for International Development [AID]
                  -Location
                  -Foreign policy
                        -Head of mission

       Villarreal's support for President
             -Hispanics
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                         (rev. June-2010)
                                                            Conversation No. 867-29 (cont’d)

       New job for Villarreal
            -Assistant Secretary of Navy
                  -John W. Warner
            -Naval Academy graduate

Mr. and Mrs. Villarreal left.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Professor, Mr. and Mrs. Carlson, are you real?
Oh, yes.
How are you?
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
How are you?
Nice to see you.
Nice to see you.
Nice to see you.
Well, we want to get our formal picture here for you.
Good.
I understand that you're still considering any other evening, but if you will, what would you like to order?
Well, I spoke with Jerry .
He told me that there were two alternatives to the issue of that.
One was- Maybe it's another one.
The Secretary of the Navy's restoration of business.
Mm-hm.
And I'm going to make an interview with him this week.
All right.
The other, as you said, was .
Yes, yes.
Those are good positions.
Very important.
AID is the truth.
Yes.
Where is it?
Here.
Well, I think that's part of the argument.
Well, I don't know.
What was the woman going to say?
She said, Mr. President, I'm not sure if it was a foreign country or not.
And I want it to be here in Washington.
Well, you could have said it would have been.
I see the AID, of course, to be a foreign country out here.
Yes.
He doesn't have a big office here.
Of course, those are the best jobs we have here.
He's got to be the responsibility.
He's got to be a man.
He has to be a man.
rather than being working for somebody else.
But other than that, I think that if I was in the Navy, it would be a good chance to be built out of the game.
And also the service.
Most of the service isn't true.
That would be very, very bad.
I wanted to say, Mr. President, to continue to help you, we've got those Spanish people.
That's why we want you, we want you, we want you to do it, and consider either one of them.
Both of those are in Washington.
Yes, they are.
And I would, in my track, prefer these sisters to be in the Navy.
That would be good.
Is that John Warner?
That's John Warner, yes, sir.
Go talk to him.
That's good.
That would be very, very interesting, too.
The Navy is such a solid business.
Well, sir, were you in the Navy?
Yes, I'm in the Navy.
Take the Navy, that's what I mean.
But also, you come around the world, you know, you create.
Well, I'll tell you now.
There's such a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a,
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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