{"conversationCode":"867-036","tapeNumber":867,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-867-036","startDateTime":"1973-03-02T22:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-02T22:14:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Mar-1973","startTime":"5:05 PM","endDate":"2-Mar-1973","endTime":"5:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Elbourne, Timothy G.; Elbourne, Timothy G. (Mrs.); Elbourne, Kathy; Elbourne, Kirsten; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Timothy G. Elbourne, Mrs. Elbourne, Kathy Elbourne, Kirsten Elbourne, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 5:14 pm. 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Elbourne, Kathy Elbourne,\nTimothy Elbourne and Kirsten Elbourne; the White House photographer was present at the\nbeginning of the meeting.\n\n        Greetings/introductions\n              -New job at Disney\n\n        Photographs\n             -Arrangements\n\f                                             -52-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                Conversation No. 867-36 (cont’d)\n\n       Elbournes's work\n            -People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip\n            -President's appreciation\n\n       New job at Disney Travel Co.\n            -Residence in Anaheim, California\n            -Stock options\n\n       Photograph\n            -President's autograph\n            -Copies\n\n       California\n\n       Advance work\n           -Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nElbourne et al. left at 5:12 pm. Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:12 pm.\n\n       President's meeting with Donna J. Kingwell\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:14 pm.","filename":["867-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Elbourne, Timothy G.","Elbourne, Timothy G. (Mrs.)","Elbourne, Kathy","Elbourne, Kirsten","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"867-035","nextCode":"867-037","transcript":[{"start":0.24,"end":2.04,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":3.58,"end":5.73,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":18.87,"end":21.93,"text":"Well, you're going out to Disney, huh?"},{"start":21.95,"end":22.21,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":22.23,"end":22.73,"text":"That's great, sir."},{"start":22.75,"end":23.23,"text":"It's good for them."},{"start":23.25,"end":24.13,"text":"It's good for you, too."},{"start":24.15,"end":24.55,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":24.63,"end":25.33,"text":"You've got a minor, right?"},{"start":25.55,"end":26.63,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":26.89,"end":28.32,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":28.39,"end":29.36,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":29.48,"end":31.66,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":31.7,"end":38.82,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":38.88,"end":39.62,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":39.84,"end":40.8,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":40.86,"end":41.54,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":41.6,"end":43.18,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":43.26,"end":47.59,"text":"You've got a minor, sir."},{"start":50.23,"end":54.82,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":58.12,"end":60.2,"text":"Well, he did a great job."},{"start":60.7,"end":62.46,"text":"He's lucky to get you."},{"start":62.5,"end":63.88,"text":"He's lucky to get you."},{"start":63.96,"end":66.36,"text":"And he was living in California first."},{"start":67.44,"end":69,"text":"Where are you going?"},{"start":69.05,"end":69.85,"text":"Down there."},{"start":70.45,"end":72.23,"text":"So we'll be back to visit."},{"start":72.41,"end":73.59,"text":"Visit our old pals."},{"start":74.23,"end":75.31,"text":"Well, you worked in California."},{"start":75.33,"end":77.53,"text":"Yeah, I was at Disney before."},{"start":77.57,"end":78.19,"text":"Disney before?"},{"start":78.21,"end":78.77,"text":"Just go back home."},{"start":79.67,"end":79.97,"text":"They are."},{"start":79.98,"end":82.69,"text":"There must be people asking that, too."},{"start":82.73,"end":83.63,"text":"Oh, I don't know."},{"start":83.69,"end":84.21,"text":"Well, they do."},{"start":84.33,"end":85.23,"text":"Are they paid?"},{"start":85.49,"end":85.69,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":85.71,"end":93.07,"text":"They're doing very well at one of their make-or-no-buck-a-stock auctions, and that's worth saying."},{"start":93.11,"end":93.47,"text":"That's right."},{"start":93.57,"end":95.01,"text":"Tim has a very good view."},{"start":95.05,"end":99.69,"text":"Mr. President, I would just adore if you could do that."},{"start":99.71,"end":105.7,"text":"It's one of those great pictures that he sent me when we did the library that he was doing."},{"start":105.74,"end":106.1,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":117.46,"end":122.82,"text":"There you are."},{"start":125.64,"end":125.88,"text":"Sit."},{"start":132.81,"end":134.37,"text":"Who's yours?"},{"start":143.6,"end":149.82,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":149.87,"end":150.99,"text":"Thanks a lot."},{"start":175.47,"end":177.38,"text":"President, we have one more at the staff department."},{"start":177.46,"end":178.16,"text":"We're done."},{"start":178.6,"end":180.75,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":180.79,"end":181.05,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Timothy G. Elbourne and his family in the Oval Office to bid them farewell as Elbourne transitioned to a new position at the Disney Travel Company in California. The discussion touched upon Elbourne's prior advance work for the administration, including his contributions to the President's trip to the People's Republic of China. The meeting concluded with the President posing for photographs and providing autographs for the family.","topics":["Timothy G. 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